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Spain has blocked Telegram!

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Can't remember what country banned TikTok before, anyway they took half their internet down, (might have been Thailand?) also i remember similar happening when Pornhub was taken down in Thailand lol

FYI TikTok routinely provides information to the Governments when requested, so does Signal (i am told - and unencrypted), but Wicker doesn't so i guess these people will move to something like that...
This was 2021 (but i am informed out - of -date by someone well informed).

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In Asia it's usually We-Chat (Chinese defensive wall) or Line (Japanese privacy laws).

Somewhat surprised these Ukrainian and Russian knuckleheads sharing all the raw content on telegram don't use We-Chat...

Oh and then there's M1, M2, M3 Mac which is easily navigable around encryption now, and VPN's are running apple classroom and able to jump into the end users device or observe.
 
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wellington said:
Can't remember what country banned TikTok before, anyway they took half their internet down, (might have been Thailand?) also i remember similar happening when Pornhub was taken down in Thailand lol

FYI TikTok routinely provides information to the Governments when requested, so does Signal (i am told - and unencrypted), but Wicker doesn't so i guess these people will move to something like that...
This was 2021 (but i am informed out - of -date by someone well informed).

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In Asia it's usually We-Chat (Chinese defensive wall) or Line (Japanese privacy laws).

Somewhat surprised these Ukrainian and Russian knuckleheads sharing all the raw content on telegram don't use We-Chat...

Oh and then there's M1, M2, M3 Mac which is easily navigable around encryption now, and VPN's are running apple classroom and able to jump into the end users device or observe.
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Bruhhhhhhhhhhh.... :cool:

Thank you VERY much for this! You just gave me an incredible OPSEC angle!

You are THE BEST! Again, thank you VERY much! ange¤%&
 
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wellington said:
FYI TikTok routinely provides information to the Governments when requested, so does Signal (i am told - and unencrypted), but Wicker doesn't so i guess these people will move to something like that...
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I have dealt with numerous requirements from leadership teams concerning secure communications, particularly for publicly traded companies needing secure messaging for their execs/R&D. This has led to several security assessments, including one for a now-dismantled Canadian app. My most recent PoCs with Threema and AWS Wickr were for a client desiring secure, on-premise messaging solutions. Both platforms showed promise with the right setup and dedicated support. Given Wickr's use by the US DOD and other government entities, there's a significant incentive to maintain security, at least against adversaries of the US. Threema, in my opinion, remains the most reliable option for secure communications currently available. Although Signal now offers usernames, its reliance on phone numbers could pose an OPSEC issue. Despite hearing some rumors about Signal, I've yet to come across any verifiable evidence of its compromise.

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Oh and then there's M1, M2, M3 Mac which is easily navigable around encryption now, and VPN's are running apple classroom and able to jump into the end users device or observe.
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I take it you're referring to the recent GoFetch incident? My stance is one of cautious optimism. Despite the serious nature of the vulnerability, particularly with the potential for remote access and data leakage, the barriers an attacker must overcome are significant. Moreover, the necessity of physical access to decrypt the device adds another layer of complexity, likely rendering this attack vector impractical for many threat models. Classroom software does raise eyebrows due to its background operations, but there are workarounds, such as startup scripts to terminate the process or tools to block it outright. It's important to consider that for certain threat models, the assumption includes having capabilities to defend against such threats, for instance, through proper monitoring.

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You could also keep tabs on Secure Messaging Apps Comparison | Privacy Matters. While it does not show this from LE perspective, it does give you insight into the security controls of the app.
 
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0xDEADBEEF said:
I have dealt with numerous requirements from leadership teams concerning secure communications, particularly for publicly traded companies needing secure messaging for their execs/R&D. This has led to several security assessments, including one for a now-dismantled Canadian app. My most recent PoCs with Threema and AWS Wickr were for a client desiring secure, on-premise messaging solutions. Both platforms showed promise with the right setup and dedicated support. Given Wickr's use by the US DOD and other government entities, there's a significant incentive to maintain security, at least against adversaries of the US. Threema, in my opinion, remains the most reliable option for secure communications currently available. Although Signal now offers usernames, its reliance on phone numbers could pose an OPSEC issue. Despite hearing some rumors about Signal, I've yet to come across any verifiable evidence of its compromise.


I take it you're referring to the recent GoFetch incident? My stance is one of cautious optimism. Despite the serious nature of the vulnerability, particularly with the potential for remote access and data leakage, the barriers an attacker must overcome are significant. Moreover, the necessity of physical access to decrypt the device adds another layer of complexity, likely rendering this attack vector impractical for many threat models. Classroom software does raise eyebrows due to its background operations, but there are workarounds, such as startup scripts to terminate the process or tools to block it outright. It's important to consider that for certain threat models, the assumption includes having capabilities to defend against such threats, for instance, through proper monitoring.


You could also keep tabs on Secure Messaging Apps Comparison | Privacy Matters. While it does not show this from LE perspective, it does give you insight into the security controls of the app.
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Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
 
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Martin Everson said:
You got to love Spain. So if Microsoft or Apple does not provide certain information they will ban Windows or iOS?. And people complain about China..lol.
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"It's bad when they do it but good when we do it" is a classic double standard in politics.
 
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Lol, just change your DNS to 1.1.1.1 or 9.9.9.9 and problem solved. 15 seconds of work required, for any device

Also:
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The first to deactivate Telegram was China where it was "switched off" in 2015 in the face of the messages opposing the communist regime that were disseminated through it.

Thailand, Pakistan, Iran, and Cuba have also banned it for similar reasons.
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diatessaron said:
Use keet.io.
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Who is behind this project? What kind of encryption does it use, if any?

There are already well known recommended services like Telegram, please do not go around recommending untested, unknown services run by God knows who

Secure Messaging Apps Comparison | Privacy Matters

This site compares secure messaging apps from a security & privacy point of view. These include Facebook Messenger, iMessage, Skype, Signal, Google Allo, Threema, Riot, Wire, Telegram, and Wickr. The best secure messaging app?
www.securemessagingapps.com www.securemessagingapps.com
 
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