How to create the strongest anonymous offshore company?

[Fred]

Using nominees is a significant risk. I don't know if anyone can be trusted these days

The Problem I see with Nominees nowadays is that People are not willing to pay for a Proper Nominee which costs you 400-500 EUR per Month. Using a proper Nominee which is dedicated to you comes at a cost and is only used once and not 10 times - in this case you avoid 99% of the Trouble when it comes to Banking and even real Banks are opening without Problems.

Using nowadays Nominee Services without paying what's actually required to pay or using some Fake Docs / Homeless People / Nominees used multiple times for Banking already - will lead to Account Closures or Rejections.

If you go cheap in the Offshore World you go twice.

 

[AdH]

The Problem I see with Nominees nowadays is that People are not willing to pay for a Proper Nominee which costs you 400-500 EUR per Month. Using a proper Nominee which is dedicated to you comes at a cost and is only used once and not 10 times - in this case you avoid 99% of the Trouble when it comes to Banking and even real Banks are opening without Problems.

Using nowadays Nominee Services without paying what's actually required to pay or using some Fake Docs / Homeless People / Nominees used multiple times for Banking already - will lead to Account Closures or Rejections.

If you go cheap in the Offshore World you go twice.

I could use Proper Nominee, but the problem is, to know real and Proper Nominees !!!!

 

[Fred]

I could use Proper Nominee, but the problem is, to know real and Proper Nominees !!!!

You can get this through Corporate Service Providers who actually know what they are doing and have a strong Network built over the Years - we at DLS Offshore unfortunately doesn't provide Nominees as a standalone service but I'm sure you can find something when you look around.

 

[dany]

After all these years you may have found out that mentor group gold will be the only way to find such a setup in 2025! It's not straight forward any longer nor simple achievable.

As already described in many threads, it is very difficult to keep anything anonymous once you have a bank account linked to your company.

Most businesses need a bank account to operate, and there are only a few exceptions where this is not necessary, where anonymity can still be maintained.

 

[uplana]

Using nominees is a significant risk. I don't know if anyone can be trusted these days

I completely agree, but if you can be a nominee without being public, you can trust your nominee without any issues.

Many people can't figure out that sentence.....

 

[burden]

It does seem like things are getting more challenging when it comes to staying anonymous these days. An US LLC can provide some level of privacy, but you're right: once banking is involved, maintaining full anonymity becomes much more difficult.

For me, the key is ensuring that my personal information doesn't end up publicly available on the internet, like it often does in most countries. It's even worse in places like Georgia, where you can easily download copies of passports.

yes very good mentioned.

No, banking is imposible, there are other reasons where the company anonymized is enough.

agree, you can't get bank accounts opened easy any longer without real people.

 

[Shadow Atlas]

I completely agree, but if you can be a nominee without being public, you can trust your nominee without any issues.

Many people can't figure out that sentence.....

The "acting as your own nominee" service can eventually become a more viable solution, only if there is a solution to biometrics.
Practicaly all of the advice in this field relies on the names being different, and thus not trigerring automatic bank reporting, which works only insofar if you kid yourself that banks will not implement facial recognition software. And to spend so much money on a second passport/ID that you never use (keep on the side)... you're better off doing it for residency reasons, not to obfuscate U.B.O.

Long story short- for now, it sounds cool on paper. But those who actually have come up with long-term biometric abd liveness chech workarounds to become "your own nominee", probably don't advertise it on a public forum.

 

[brianK]

The "acting as your own nominee" service can eventually become a more viable solution, only if there is a solution to biometrics.

there is a solution for all of it, but as you said, nothing anyone with that knowledge want to share on a public forum

 

[EliasIT]

I think a lot of this is overthought and overly theoretical, and above all, it's based on a few isolated cases where poor choices were made regarding some form of nominees whether they're actual nominees, imagined ones, or something else entirely.

In general, you can put together something that works well for your personal needs, as long as you're not using a setup involving millions.

 

[ImKing]

Can we discusss in private a good solution?

I think a lot of this is overthought and overly theoretical, and above all, it's based on a few isolated cases where poor choices were made regarding some form of nominees whether they're actual nominees, imagined ones, or something else entirely.

In general, you can put together something that works well for your personal needs, as long as you're not using a setup involving millions.

 

[plotoffshore]

yes very good mentioned.

agree, you can't get bank accounts opened easy any longer without real people.

but how do you do banking for your company?

 

[orangeye]

The company still exists, and no one really seems interested in it either.

Yes, banking is extremely difficult to make work for these kinds of setups, especially if you don’t want your name tied to anything.

And no, it’s not a long term solution if you’re relying on a bank account. In that case, you’re better off sticking to crypto.

How are you able to keep it alive for so long time ?

 

[uplana]

The "acting as your own nominee" service can eventually become a more viable solution, only if there is a solution to biometrics.
Practicaly all of the advice in this field relies on the names being different, and thus not trigerring automatic bank reporting, which works only insofar if you kid yourself that banks will not implement facial recognition software. And to spend so much money on a second passport/ID that you never use (keep on the side)... you're better off doing it for residency reasons, not to obfuscate U.B.O.

Long story short- for now, it sounds cool on paper. But those who actually have come up with long-term biometric abd liveness chech workarounds to become "your own nominee", probably don't advertise it on a public forum.

That's because you don’t really understand what this is all about.

If you use standard nominees hired through a law firm or one of the many agents out there, you run the risk of them taking control of the entire setup and potentially harming you.

And if you start forging documents like people did back in 2015, you'll end up behind bars faster than you can blink. Plus, as you correctly pointed out, fake documents wouldn’t even help today with biometric scans, video verification, and all that.

 

[Shadow Atlas]

That's because you don’t really understand what this is all about.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that I understood you very clearly: you, uplana, have a passport in country A, and then you buy a second citizenship in country B, legally do a name change, and you never use citizenship B to travel; instead it becomes your "personal nominee", under which you apply for crypto accounts, banks etc.

For the cost of a second passport, and to HOPE that banks do not incorporate passport biometrics into their reporting system (with AI to analyze the information) is quite naive.

My point is simple: it sounds cool. But unless you've got three-letter agency contacts, then why not use the second passport as a second travel option, and not act like James Bond?

I'm pretty sure there are solutions out there, but I guarantee that - because both of us are talking on this forum - we don't have them.

 

[SilverNeo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that I understood you very clearly: you, uplana, have a passport in country A, and then you buy a second citizenship in country B, legally do a name change, and you never use citizenship B to travel; instead it becomes your "personal nominee", under which you apply for crypto accounts, banks etc.

For the cost of a second passport, and to HOPE that banks do not incorporate passport biometrics into their reporting system (with AI to analyze the information) is quite naive.

My point is simple: it sounds cool. But unless you've got three-letter agency contacts, then why not use the second passport as a second travel option, and not act like James Bond?

I'm pretty sure there are solutions out there, but I guarantee that - because both of us are talking on this forum - we don't have them.

I Don't get why people think AI is this magic wand that does everything...

Lets assume they use AI and is perfect it still depends on data it has access to.

Lets assume it does biometrics all that if you give the bank one of your passport and you don't have another account with another passport in the same bank all they have access to is passport B.

Unless they come up with some form of a central database with the whole world in it AI is only good as the data it has access to.

 

[uplana]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that I understood you very clearly: you, uplana, have a passport in country A, and then you buy a second citizenship in country B, legally do a name change, and you never use citizenship B to travel; instead it becomes your "personal nominee", under which you apply for crypto accounts, banks etc.

No not really.

 

[plotoffshore]

Lets assume it does biometrics all that if you give the bank one of your passport and you don't have another account with another passport in the same bank all they have access to is passport B.

Unless they come up with some form of a central database with the whole world in it AI is only good as the data it has access to.

You make a good point here, but are you sure that banks won’t, in the future, be able to access a database that scans all your passport data against a global database where all passports worldwide are registered, precisely to prevent the kind of scenario we’re discussing here?

I could imagine that’s exactly where things are headed, especially within the EU.

 

[belarus]

I’ve just purchased a ready-made setup with a Cyprus company and a Cyprus-based EMI account, which I’ve successfully logged into.

Everything appears to be in perfect order.

I was advised that the setup needs to be “warmed up” first, meaning small transactions over the next six months, which I plan to do.

For now, I won’t disclose how I managed to get my hands on this great setup, but I will say it came through someone in the mentor group.

 

[SilverNeo]

You make a good point here, but are you sure that banks won’t, in the future, be able to access a database that scans all your passport data against a global database where all passports worldwide are registered, precisely to prevent the kind of scenario we’re discussing here?

I could imagine that’s exactly where things are headed, especially within the EU.

Yes im sure this will not happen as you have privacy laws such as GDPR also is not a simple task.

The only way you will have a problem if you are doing something illegal for example scamming people or something and there is a specific investigation into you and your company.

 

[burden]

How are you able to keep it alive for so long time ?

The banks only request standard KYC once a year, and they get it, so far, there haven’t been any complications.