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Moving Outside EU, but where?

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Ani

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Hi all,

As a European citizen who has already lived in Spain, Malta, Austria, and Cyprus, I’m now considering where to go next.

Currently, I'm based in Cyprus. However, over the past 1.5 years, the situation in the Middle East has started to weigh on me. There’s no immediate danger, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve been feeling an odd vibe. Ultimately, Cyprus hasn't turned out to be what I expected when I moved here.

Having now experienced both the pros and cons, I'm looking for a new destination, this time, outside the EU.


What I’m looking for:
  • A place where English is widely spoken (both in daily life and in official matters like forms, documents)
  • A relaxed, easygoing atmosphere
  • Friendly locals who are welcoming to foreigners
  • Reasonable taxation (I've learned it’s not all about low taxes, but they still matter)

Any suggestions?
 
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As Mercury mentioned above, Phillippines is a quick solution and ticks all your boxes.

As a bonus, foreign corporations are subjected to tax only on income from the Philippines,

The visa is easy to extend, most people speak English (it's an official language there), the cost of living is less than in Europe,
they got nice warm weather and hundreds of beaches to choose from (if you prefer mountains, look around Sagada, it's very chilled), you'll get your peace.

You'd be even safe from the 'Samson option' there.
 
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Ani said:
As a European citizen who has already lived in Spain, Malta, Austria, and Cyprus, I’m now considering where to go next.
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If you want stay near EU check what is going on in Gibraltar.

English is first language, fair taxation and if rumors are true you will be able to enter/exit without controls and be in Marbella in 1hr.

Basically Spanish lifestyle with Gibraltar taxation.

And depending on how you generate your income you could be tax free.

I nearly sold myself to move there LOL

If instead you crave a different vibe then Thailand amending taxation of foreign income could be a strong option.
 
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Marzio said:
If you want stay near EU check what is going on in Gibraltar.

English is first language, fair taxation and if rumors are true you will be able to enter/exit without controls and be in Marbella in 1hr.

Basically Spanish lifestyle with Gibraltar taxation.

And depending on how you generate your income you could be tax free.

I nearly sold myself to move there LOL

If instead you crave a different vibe then Thailand amending taxation of foreign income could be a strong option.
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I wouldn’t recommend doing this. I lived in Marbella for two years under the Beckham Law, and I saw firsthand how many people ran into trouble with the Spanish authorities for trying similar setups.


It’s really just a matter of time before they catch up with you. The issue isn't with the Gibraltar authorities, it’s Spain that will come after you.
 
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cryptofriendly said:
As Mercury mentioned above, Phillippines is a quick solution and ticks all your boxes.

As a bonus, foreign corporations are subjected to tax only on income from the Philippines,

The visa is easy to extend, most people speak English (it's an official language there), the cost of living is less than in Europe,
they got nice warm weather and hundreds of beaches to choose from (if you prefer mountains, look around Sagada, it's very chilled), you'll get your peace.

You'd be even safe from the 'Samson option' there.
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Do you have any info regarding long-term visas in the Philippines? I haven't been there yet. (but I will start re-searching) How is the safety there?
 
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Despina said:
Doing what?

Marzio is recommending establishing tax residency in Gibraltar and then going to Marbella when you feel to.

He is not suggesting to live in Marbella pretending to be resident in Gibraltar.

If you don’t rent a home in Spain and don’t spend too much time in Spain you will be fine.
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Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but those sentences,“If the rumors are true, you’ll be able to enter and exit without checks and be in Marbella within an hour. Basically, Spanish lifestyle with Gibraltar taxation”,seem to suggest that, due to the lack of border controls, you could live in Spain and work from a rented office in Gibraltar.

If he recommends that ofc it is totally fine.
 
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Ani said:
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but those sentences,“If the rumors are true, you’ll be able to enter and exit without checks and be in Marbella within an hour. Basically, Spanish lifestyle with Gibraltar taxation”,seem to suggest that, due to the lack of border controls, you could live in Spain and work from a rented office in Gibraltar.
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You will definitely need an apartment in Gibraltar. But there have been some rumors that there are border checks now. I am not sure, maybe somebody can go check for us?

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Post in thread 'Buying a house in Spain non-resident, risks?'

There is a hard border between Spain and Gibraltar - your passport is now scanned by Spain border control when you leave Spain and again if you re-enter Spain from Gibraltar.
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