Discussion in 'Offshore Bank Accounts & EMI Accounts' started by hey, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Last time I was in KL, I was talking to another American about Cambodia. He was sketchy as far as trustworthy even being a young guy. But what he said got me thinking and I letter looked into it and he seems to be telling the truth. He was in banking.

    He said that Cambodia has no currency controls. He said he could launder money through Cambodia. I been to Cambodia and I know they are very desperate for foreigners to come and start business and work. It seems all the smart people decided to kick their air addiction a few years back. I know Cambodia is super easy to get a work/business visa. Just pay $100 for the year I think the new rules are.

    Anywho, does this make sense for anything anyone is doing? I know it would help if your into illegal things but I am not selling anything illegal. I was thinking it could help moving money out of EMis and into private real banks anonymously maybe.
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  2. Martin Everson

    Martin Everson Offshore Consultant Business Angel

    I bank with ababank in Cambodia. Like most developing countries a lot is going on out there. Need a little more details on your plans. PM if needed.
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  3. W4rhol

    W4rhol Building Trust Entrepreneur

    I'm interested as well (I'm based in Indonesia). Could you tell us more please ?
  4. awareoatmeal

    awareoatmeal Member

    I'm interested as well, more details please
  5. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Well, I don't know a lot about this issue as I never did anything with Cambodia business wise. I got the business visa which was stupid easy. But I notice they are changing the rules almost daily. See this site:

    Work permits in Cambodia

    As far as living there.....its super cheap and you can get anything you want. I bought hand grenades and RPGs. I tried getting handguns but they wanted more than my handguns I have in America. AK47s are super cheap, but hard to conceal. Point is, you can do anything and get anything for the most part. They tried selling me landmines.....I really didn't know what I would do with landmines, throw rocks at it? You can drive without a license and if you get caught pay $2, if you get caught. But you will be bored as heck.....nothing to do.

    I know gold is cheap there. When I was in Vietnam gold was below market value and you could export it and make money, but any exporting of gold was illegal. Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam are cheap on gold in ONLY two cases, jewelry and small gram bars. Anything in bars or coins an oz or bigger USA is by far cheaper. If you want the locations of places you can buy cheap jewelry in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, let me know. Don't PM, I will list here for everyone.

    Point is, they are lax about everything it seems and they are very desperate for business. But mind you, its extremely dangerous. The khmer rouge never gave up their weapons, old khmer rouge leaders are leading the country today as I type this, I was threatened a few times. Foreigners and locals end up dead all the time from violence.

    I am thinking about setting a business and bank account there within a year. I really don't know much more.
  6. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    I can't PM you, I tried going to your profile and it says error, this member limits the members that can view this profile. New on this forum.
  7. Martin Everson

    Martin Everson Offshore Consultant Business Angel

    I can't help you or be involved with anything you mentioned here unfortunately.
  8. countryfree

    countryfree Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Getting a visa, starting up a business are only the beginning. You should ask yourself if Cambodia is appropriate for the kind of business you want to launch. If you want to propose marketing consultancy services in Europe, you won't find anyone willing to hire a Cambodian company for the job...
  9. W4rhol

    W4rhol Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Wrong, my main competitor is a team of engineer based in Cambodia... we don't care where is the company, but what is the value who is bring by that company.
  10. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    I guess they don't have to know if you structure the Cambodian company as a subsidiary of lets say a Belize company that also owns a Cyprus/UK company.
  11. countryfree

    countryfree Building Trust Entrepreneur

    I guess we're not talking about the same thing. I gave the example of marketing consultancy. Go to a supermarket in Spain, then in the UK, then in Italy. In each store, you'll find products not available in the others. Why? Because consumer's tastes are different in each country. Do you really believe a guy in Cambodia will know those differences?

    But this isn't the subject here, we still don't know what kind of business is in the plan here. Selling machine guns?
  12. theman78

    theman78 Active Member

    Could you share these gold sellers? thank you.
  13. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    If his main competitor is an engineer, it would be safe to say he is also doing something like engineering.....Plus I doubt he is selling machine guns in the UK....
  14. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Admin, if you require this in a different thread because the subject is changing, feel free to move it.

    Only 92.5%, no 24K that I could fine. Maybe if I tried the Chinese in Bangkok but haven’t been there.

    Everything is 24K. Talat Sao Shopping Mall, also called the Morning Market in Vientiane. It is a big building and everything is inside. Maybe about 50 shops all selling gold next to each other. There are big shops and small shops. If I were you, I would wait until you notice a bigger shop with lots of girls working and there are a lot of customers there as your less likely to get ripped off. That’s a tread you’ll notice I do in Asia, go to the bigger names and stores with lots of customers. The only place in country where I would buy gold. Silver was super expensive and hard to fine. Unless you like collecting as there was a lot of Tiger tongues. Workmanship was $20. I forgot the names and booth numbers of the stores I like. Has unique chains that I really liked for cheap. The place to buy chains.

    Almost the same as Laos, same prices, everything 24k. Workmanship was $20. Central Market, Phnom Penh is the place to be. Not much different from laos. Has unique chains that I really liked for cheap. The place to buy chains.

    In Vietnam there are different family run places but Vietnamese are professionals at ripping foreigners off. Do NOT buy from anyone other than these two major brands: SJC (Saigon Jewelry Company) SJC and PNJ Trang Sức Cao Cấp PNJ | Cty Cổ Phần Vàng Bạc Đá Quý Phú Nhuận .

    You can find these locations big and small through the country. I only buy from the major big locations. I have seen smaller shops display these logos and I still wouldn’t go there. I just stick to the headquarters I think in HCMC. The first time I was there the lady who helped me was real sweet. The second time the girl was a typical upper class *****. Either way, they are professional and will not rip you off. Jewelry is a bit more than Cambodia or Laos and hardly any 24k. But they did have 24k coins and bars.
    Vietnam is the place to buy small bars. Vietnam is unique as SJC has cool looking coins and shapes with different pictures or styles. All are small, under an oz. Comes cased and unclosed. You can buy standard bars here as well but I found that the unique ovals, circles and cool designs were cheaper than the standard gram bars of any size.

    Weint Sein, Yangon, Myanmar. Just put that in google and it will come up. Really, any Weint Sein in the country is fine. I also was at the location in Mandalay. Also, any store on the street Maha Bandula from Phone Gyi street to Thein Phyu Road will be fine. I visited about 15 to get a feel for prices. I bargained hard that that store and I only got the price down a bit because it was a brand store. The mom and pop shops are better at bargaining but the prices were a tad higher. The place to buy chains and random nuggets. This was also unique that I liked. They will cut up bars to any size nugget you want. I never seen this before. If you want a certain amount hacked off a bar, they will do it. Just random chucks of nuggets. Pretty cool. Weint Sein was very professional and had a HUGE selection. 24k but mostly 22k and 23k.

    China is interesting. Usually everything in China is expensive, except labor! Never buy things of quality in China. But I found gold to not be much more than Vietnam. You can go to most banks without having an account and buy gold. Having an account made things a bit easier but you’re not required to have one. Bring your passport. China is a communist police state. You can’t crap without communist permission. They don’t have it there for you to look at, just fake plastic bars. But the standard sizes are priced good and it will arrive in a few days. Really only works if your living there or visiting one spot a long time. Bank of China and ICBC I know sell gold and I visited. Other banks may or may not. There are a ton of banks in China. You could go to gold stores. The prices are a bit higher but the selection is HUGE. The jewelry is usually not 24k, I forgot what it was. But you can buy gold bars and coins and government coins. The selection of small grams is small. Here you will mostly see higher end retail stuff that sells as gifts in China. So, most things are ornamental and you will pay high prices for the designs. But the designs are amazing! China is good for bullion ONLY at major banks if you have the time. China is the best if you want ornamental and have the money for really unique designs.

    These places I personally visited and bought gold or would have if I had the money on me at the moment. This is not from the net but from me physically being there. Again, I say if you’re looking for any silver in any amount or gold in kilo bars, Government coins, or bullion an oz or more, there is no cheaper place than in America, that I know of. Don't come to Asia. I heard silver is hot in Japan but never been. Whatever you buy, get a receipt on store letterhead that says everything you bought and price. The big stores will do this automatically. You can always sell it back to them if you have this.

    The only advantage of buying in southeast Asia is gram bars and jewelry. I like 24k gold chains. You can’t get 24k outside of Southeast Asia that I know of, definitely not in America without special order. The nice thing about Southeast Asia, take a picture of a design from the west that will cost your first born, in Southeast Asia they will custom make it for almost nothing. All gold jewelry in Southeast Asia is quoted by the weight times the world spot price plus workmanship. This is where the real value comes in. Depending on the piece, workmanship will cost about $20 to $50 or $100 depending on the complexity of the design. So, you can see it’s a huge savings compared to the west. I don’t care for anything super special so I get the standard designs which I like and I only pay $20 over spot.

    Banks in HK and Singapore no longer sell to non-account holders, I tried. HK, Singapore and Malaysian companies are waaaay too much. Don't waste a trip. Also, there is nothing unique. Well, Malaysia does make unique stuff but it’s expensive and it still looks too much like are western bars.
  15. countryfree

    countryfree Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Interesting information. I used to have a few silver ingots which I had bought in Switzerland, but it turned out not to be a good investment. Asian craftsmanship is cheap, I took advantage of that to buy suits, but I hadn't thought of jewellery!
  16. KJK

    KJK Building Trust Mentor Group Entrepreneur

    Sorry to interrupt your discussion about buying hand grenades, RPGs, land mines and gold... Why do you care so much about gold anyways? o_O

    Is there a similar country lax with regulation ("no currency controls") but maybe more normal and closer to USA and Europe?

    This topic is a bit surreal... so what actually is your goal? You have money in some EMI and you want to move it to Cambodia? The countries exchange information anyways afaik. Or through the country to somewhere else? I assume you don't want to live there so what role does the country play?
  17. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    No problem.

    My goal? I am asking....If you have an idea, please share. I don't know of anything closer to Europe/USA. I think we are living in times where that is no longer possible. You want that lax environment you have to put in the work, ie, go to Cambodia and set something up, etc. I don't think you have to live there.....Do you have to live in Belize to own and operate a Belize company?
  18. countryfree

    countryfree Building Trust Entrepreneur

    OK, there's no problem to send money to Cambodia, and that's not a surprise, but the problem would be how to get the money out. If you transfer money from Cambodia to a bank in Europe, it's quite likely they will ask questions about it.
  19. hey

    hey Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Right, thats what I am wondering. I've heard, not experienced, I've heard they don't watch whats going out. Or its easy to conceal. I was wondering if anyone had experience with this.
  20. countryfree

    countryfree Building Trust Entrepreneur

    Everything depends on the country the Cambodian money will go...