Can tax office ask for income figures when you’ve left?

[jeffbean]

If you have left the UK for example and followed all the correct procedures such as filling the SA109 form and de registering correctly.

At some point they will want you to prove your tax residency in your new country.

Can they legally ask for your income tax filing and figures in your new country? Or what do you have to give them by law a TRC?

 

[diro]

Yes of course they can. The tax authorities can even rape you while everyone is looking and they smile.

You have to provide whatever they ask for, if you don't live in the country and you are far away you most often can give a s**t until you go back, if you do, then they come after you like vampires.

 

[jeffbean]

There’s some laws preventing the UK tax office from over reaching, blanket requesting or unreasonable.

It has to be different though if:

1) you was a resident and a citizen
2) only a resident (not citizen)

For example a resident (uae passport holder) leaves the UK leaves for Dubai and the UK tax office asks for last two years of income fillings in UAE they will most likely tell them to do one??

Surely it’s privacy. All they need to know is you legally live there?

 

[daniels27]

If you have left the UK for example and followed all the correct procedures such as filling the SA109 form and de registering correctly.

At some point they will want you to prove your tax residency in your new country.

Can they legally ask for your income tax filing and figures in your new country? Or what do you have to give them by law a TRC?

They can do pretty much anything to collect the taxes you owe them. If you are still too much in the UK, of course, they will ask for all your income world-wide to tax it. This will include any filed and unfiled income you have and of course, they want all documentation. If you have no ties to the UK, they won't have ground to request that. You can be in UAE, Thailand or just travelling 10 days in each country of the planet.

 

[Martin Everson]

At some point they will want you to prove your tax residency in your new country.

Unlikely as if your new country has a DTA with UK they can often obtain that information already without coming to you.

Can they legally ask for your income tax filing and figures in your new country? Or what do you have to give them by law a TRC?

If you move to a country that has a DTA with UK - see if there is a "Exchange of Information" article in DTA. Hence they would gather all that information directly from other countries tax authority anyway. The only letter you would get would be one from HMRC telling you to pay XYZ British pounds by XYZ date and how to appeal the decision....lol.


Btw why are you asking are you doing something wrong such a fake residency for tax purposes?

 

[KJK]

They can ask for anything, if you left the UK for good, don't have any activities/assets there and never plan to come back, you can just ignore them.

If you spend some time in the UK, you should have a real tax residency elsewhere and do not spend too much time in the UK (and don't have your center of life in the UK).

In the end it does not matter that much what is in the law, what matters is how the tax office really behaves and they may break the law on a daily basis but you're pulling the short end of the stick here.

 

[jeffbean]

They can ask for anything, if you left the UK for good, don't have any activities/assets there and never plan to come back, you can just ignore them.

If you spend some time in the UK, you should have a real tax residency elsewhere and do not spend too much time in the UK (and don't have your center of life in the UK).

In the end it does not matter that much what is in the law, what matters is how the tax office really behaves and they may break the law on a daily basis but you're pulling the short end of the stick here.

That’s not entirely true the UK tax have to abide by “Reasonably required” .

Asking to see someone’s financial figures on an income tax report when they have legally moved countries does not help an inspector decide whether they are resident or non resident.

 

[daniels27]

That’s not entirely true the UK tax have to abide by “Reasonably required” .

Asking to see someone’s financial figures on an income tax report when they have legally moved countries does not help an inspector decide whether they are resident or non resident.

Have they asked you? Have you had 10 GBP income the last 10 years in UK, then moved to the UAE and now you have 10,000,000 GBP income declared or you have 10,000,000 GBP in your UAE bank account all of a sudden?

No offence, but I think you probably know better than us what is going on. If you have not declared any of your income/assets and have been hiding them in the UAE for years, then moved out and out of a sudden, the UK learned about it due to the data exchange agreement, this is probably why they ask.

Do you have any idea what could have been the cause for them asking? Maybe you did all correctly and they just want to compare your income?

 

[jafo]

They can do pretty much anything to collect the taxes they want to STEAL from you!

There! I fixed it for you!

PS.

Let's call a spade a spade, gentlemen!

 

[daniels27]

There! I fixed it for you!

PS.
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Let's call a spade a spade, gentlemen!

Haha, yes but this lad went to UK to live and probably benefitted a lot from free education and healthcare. He knew it very well that they want something.

 

[EliasIT]

They can ask for anything, if you left the UK for good, don't have any activities/assets there and never plan to come back, you can just ignore them.

second that, and if you don't plan to come back within the next 10 years the case is closed anyway once you get back.

 

[Revoltec]

If you are not a resident during the period for which they are asking questions, they have to prove legally first that you were a tax resident in order to request information. Even then, you can refuse but it might be to your disadvantage in court. However, this is how things would be handled in court and doesnt represent how the tax agency behaves in reality

 

[wellington]

UK increasingly is asking its overseas residents via the UK banks they retained what sort of wealth/income they’ve had under the guise of KYC updates

Thing about the UK is currently they don’t have the right to information like say countries in Europe for non residents

With the new labour gov that might change

- good time to marry a non western chick lol