Important! Please suggest what you think we should do with people that scam forum members?

Admin

Forum Moderator
Staff member
Hello fellows,

Thankfully most of the forum users at OCT are honest and very helpful people which everyday make this forum a greater place to gather useful and valuable information.

Unfortunately, there are black chefs in between us, as an Admin you can imagine that I’m most often the first stop when things are going wrong here.

From time to time some users seem to be in for a scam or fraud which we regret to be a platform for. So far all 3 of us which are moderating this forum have tried to enter into discussions with all parties involved, we have also published information on the forum about what your should consider before you deal with anyone here.

Now, it’s time for your opinion and suggestion to make this a more comfortable place to be to trade, to gather information and to engage in conversations.

The only option I have is to BAN people as it is right now, but I would like to avoid that anyone here lose their hard-earned money or at least make it much more complicated for scammers to take run.

So please let me know what you think or what cross your mind when you read this.

You are welcome to PM me, use the contact form or simply post in this thread!
 

Martin Everson

Offshore Consultant
Business Angel
That's a difficult question as other than banning them the risk is always with the person handing over any money for a service. I guess educating new users what to look out for may be a start.

An Escrow service would definitely work but would require a council and arbitration which may be a lot of work.
 

lookingforward

Building Trust
Entrepreneur
Maybe we can create verified badge, trustworthy badge? And verify users somehow, for me, i created thread , where users after my job can write an review, so reviews can work as well :)

Or for example on some forums there is "people of trust, 3rd hand, verified approved forum employee" that can be a middleman (but i dont know if a middleman is a good idea for this forum)
 

Admin

Forum Moderator
Staff member
people of trust, 3rd hand, verified approved forum employee
This means, they will act as something similar as an Escrow service?

Someone know of a valid and trusted BTC escrow service? most people here pay by bitcoins.
 

lookingforward

Building Trust
Entrepreneur
This means, they will act as something similar as an Escrow service?

Someone know of a valid and trusted BTC escrow service? most people here pay by bitcoins.
Yes, looks like, but i haven't tried any of BTC Escrow services, yet.
 

extremedox101

Trusted Member
Business Angel
This means, they will act as something similar as an Escrow service?

Someone know of a valid and trusted BTC escrow service? most people here pay by bitcoins.
you can hire a team and charge 20% more for buyer that need protection .
 

Dubsize

Building Trust
Entrepreneur
I think the marketplace was a first step.
Just like Ebay then, we should be able to rate the provider and give reviews.
 

lavel

Offshore Agent
Business Angel
I agree with escrow service and badges that may help. Many other large forums have iTrader system for Xenforo installed that helps to keep the business clean.
 

life

New Member
The best way forward is setting up an in-house Escrow System to protect both buyer and sell... and this way disputes can be settled amicably without anyone losing out. Escrow service will be provided at a fee between 2-10% depending on deal amount.
 

Milky Moon

Offshore Research & Development.
Business Angel
Setting up a marketplace and/or an escrow service might be construed as directly facilitating criminal activity (given that not all is spotless clean). This might not be a wise decision from the forum owner.
 

khan

Corporate Services
Business Angel
Mentor Group
Main priority for people who consider to take an offer and buy from a user from OCT must be to look at the age of the profile and how posts and threads are made. If they look spammy or it's obvious that thet don't really help anyone then it should rise a RED FLAG.

Another option would be that each seller here has to provide Admin or a Forum mod with a sample of the product sold, if they can't do that, it will simply not be allowed to sell here.

Finally, Admin could only allow aged user profiles to sell on OTC, new registrations or user profiles which have a low or no post count can't sell here!
 

extremedox101

Trusted Member
Business Angel
Main priority for people who consider to take an offer and buy from a user from OCT must be to look at the age of the profile and how posts and threads are made. If they look spammy or it's obvious that thet don't really help anyone then it should rise a RED FLAG.

Another option would be that each seller here has to provide Admin or a Forum mod with a sample of the product sold, if they can't do that, it will simply not be allowed to sell here.

Finally, Admin could only allow aged user profiles to sell on OTC, new registrations or user profiles which have a low or no post count can't sell here!
this low protection , escrow is best option .
 

khan

Corporate Services
Business Angel
Mentor Group
Setting up a marketplace and/or an escrow service might be construed as directly facilitating criminal activity (given that not all is spotless clean). This might not be a wise decision from the forum owner.
Why do you think so, because of what is sold or because of the tax?
 

helmax

Building Trust
Entrepreneur
without itrader we need forum or sub forum for feedback
Any seller create topic for own, and members tell feedback
 

helmax

Building Trust
Entrepreneur
One more advice is Signature be paid or removed
And moderators control that signatures
Because there is many sellers using signatures for free marketplace
And after take advantage for scam users
 
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