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so true.... the way to do is to start planing even before getting married or having problems like that....
and if you know for example that your wife is cheating you, don't get mad and start planning the way you are going to put all your assets out of her reach lol....
You can get mad of her later with all your assets in a safe place
Absolutely. Kick her ass the best way possible remove all assets from her hands
 

Martin Everson

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After seeing what Will Smith is going through in his marriage I would say trust no one always. The heffer of a wife said she got into an 'entanglement' with August Alsina. An entanglement that lasted years???? Now Will Smith sat in a marriage looking like a damn clown. A guy that looked to have everything now looks like a sad wreck.
 
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hernanday

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Hi All -
Been googling this all night but so much information and I don't know what is true or what is a sales pitch, etc. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I am married and live in California, don't know how much longer it will last. I am starting a company with two other partners, and while it will definitely be a startup with 0 revenue for the first year, I see a lot of potential.

I want to protect my ownership stake as much as possible, so I am thinking to create a foreign llc to hold my ownership and the foreign trust owned by me will own the LLC.

Would this be the best way to operate, or am I going overboard and just a foreign LLC with foreign bank accounts holding any earnings would be enough?

Lastly, which country would be the best place to do this? The easiest for me to deal with, the cheapest for me to setup, and that I can fully trust?

Thank you again, any guidance would be so greatly appreciated.
1. I could go into all the structures that could potentially help you, but I don't think it is a good idea for several reasons. The main one being the first response gave you the best answer, go for a quickie divorce now, and start the business after.

2. You are a test case in what NOT to do. As such rather than helping you specifically, I will try to help as many men who may read this.

3. Men are usually 3-5 steps behind where ever they think they are with a woman. Hence, it is very hard to help a man once he already has had an interaction with a woman, because wherever he thinks he is when he seeks help, he is usually 3-5 steps worse off/behind. It is a large part of the reason why divorce lawyers cannot help men in general. Women go to divorce lawyers before getting married in secret, they go during the first argument/hiccup in the marriage, with their girlfriends. And men go after getting the papers or she shouts 'I'm divorcing you'. By that point she already quit her job, is a stay at home mom, pressured you into working more hours to cover her lifestyle demands, pushed you into buying her an extra car and a larger house with a white picket fence you cannot afford and likely pressured you into having kids you didn't want.

By this point it is a slam dunk case for the woman's lawyer because she has you hook, line and sinker. She has created a multi-year track record of her not working, being a SAHM, "taking care of the kids and being their primary care giver", 'he is never at home with the kids', 'he already pays for everything', so is it any surprise the judge agrees to keep the framework that was already largely in place to maintain normalcy for the kids? Then the man gets surprised that he still has to give her everything like they were together and she doesn't have to do anything. Its not fair, but it is how things work.

4. Marriage is a business contract. You are not going into business with 2 other people, you are going in with 3, your 2 partners and your legal business partner in all of your business activities, your WIFE! Men get stupid when it comes to women. They are failing to see marriage for what it is, a business arrangement, nothing more or less, it has the same contract like any other business deal. Your question is flawed in that it goes back to my point #3, read it, re-read it and do it a 3rd time. You are already 3-5 steps behind. Your wife is your LEGAL business partner in your business. You are now trying to essentially screw your business partner out of your NEW business as you are breaking things up. Even if you successfully do this, if it takes off she will chase you down for alimony, child support and claim you screwed her out her part of the business, and will call your other business partners to testify that you started this when you were still married.

Your best bet would be to find some lawyer and sweet talk her for a swift amount that cuts her out or pays her out of her share of the business.
 

hernanday

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so true.... the way to do is to start planing even before getting married or having problems like that....
and if you know for example that your wife is cheating you, don't get mad and start planning the way you are going to put all your assets out of her reach lol....
You can get mad of her later with all your assets in a safe place
If you are not prepared to give up 50% of your business to your business partner, don't bring on a business partner. Don't get married, adopt, do like Michael Jackson, have a woman surrogate your child,.

If your assets are out of reach but you are in reach, they will just lock your ass up until you get those assets back.
 

Cetme308win

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If you are not prepared to give up 50% of your business to your business partner, don't bring on a business partner. Don't get married, adopt, do like Michael Jackson, have a woman surrogate your child,.

If your assets are out of reach but you are in reach, they will just lock your ass up until you get those assets back.
you don't need to if you planned it before marriage..... or if you are willing to dissapear
 

user9823671

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Christ what a bunch of downtrodden, women hating men in this thread. Yes guys, much better to be "that" old lonely guy paying teenage hookers to sit on your face whilst you count your hoarded away pennies. I am sure you will be very happy to have your bank deposit slips in your coffin with you.

How about some of you get off the computer, grow a pair of balls and go speak to women instead of lusting after them because that is all you can do, maybe, just maybe if you can be brave enouygh to speak to them you'll get your cock wet instead of masturbating furiously to whatever kink porn gets you off
 

maxmmm

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Christ what a bunch of downtrodden, women hating men in this thread. Yes guys, much better to be "that" old lonely guy paying teenage hookers to sit on your face whilst you count your hoarded away pennies. I am sure you will be very happy to have your bank deposit slips in your coffin with you.

How about some of you get off the computer, grow a pair of balls and go speak to women instead of lusting after them because that is all you can do, maybe, just maybe if you can be brave enouygh to speak to them you'll get your cock wet instead of masturbating furiously to whatever kink porn gets you off
OP has no problem speaking to women... that's why he has this problem now :D

And I'm sure most guys that have been through divorce-rape will be happy to change places with a single old man and his teenage hookers...
 

Martin Everson

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OP has no problem speaking to women... that's why he has this problem now :D
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Yes guys, much better to be "that" old lonely guy paying teenage hookers to sit on your face whilst you count your hoarded away pennies.
After some years of marriage, and both partners middle age spread, for most men if their wife sat on their face their head would snap clean off. :confused:
 

nav

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Thank God it doesnt happen in my country. You have an agreed amount that a male gives if he gives divorce to a woman. For the most part its about $1000-$5000. Also, if a woman gives divorce she gets nothing from a man but sometimes men give property house etc in good faith to the woman they divorce.

It might not make sense and might be treated as a joke but OP put your money in Stable/Regular Crypto and tell the judges you forgot the keys. Once the Crypto is transferred to private Hardware wallet or Paper Wallet from Exchange the judges cannot get it and your arguement that you lost the keys might also hold(may be discuss with lawyer) to some extent.

The OP scenario is another reason why your private money should not be under Govt's control.
 

hernanday

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Christ what a bunch of downtrodden, women hating men in this thread. Yes guys, much better to be "that" old lonely guy paying teenage hookers to sit on your face whilst you count your hoarded away pennies. I am sure you will be very happy to have your bank deposit slips in your coffin with you.

How about some of you get off the computer, grow a pair of balls and go speak to women instead of lusting after them because that is all you can do, maybe, just maybe if you can be brave enouygh to speak to them you'll get your cock wet instead of masturbating furiously to whatever kink porn gets you off
Ha ha, nice come back from the ladies,
-If OP didn't talk to women he wouldn't be having these problems in the first place.
-OP talked to women and is getting divorced, so he is no more guaranteed to not be that old lonely guy paying hookers than a life long bachelor dude.
-Marriage is not forever, women will discard you like toilet paper if you outlive your utility to them, women view men as tools to easy money. There are entire forums and books with massive sales about landing mr. right aka upper middle class or rich sucker to finance their lifestyle. Even if that doesn't occur, there are many problems and constant fighting in most marriages and people change over time.
-You can't take your money when you die, but you can't take your women when you die either.
-No one here is lusting after women. However, even if they were so what? Like women don't lust after men? Like women are some superior beings who don't desire sex or companion of a man? Women need men probably more than man need them, women are the ones who need love, companionship, etc.

Given the choice, I'd rather be an old man with teen hookers sitting on my face, than the crazy cat lady.
 
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Avant1

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Dr. Dre‘s soon-to-be ex-wife, Nicole Young, explained why she needs nearly $2 million a month in temporary spousal support.

As TMZ reported, the list of expenditures includes her clothing and entertainment expenses, which amount to over $1 million. Young also listed her phone and email expenses at $20,000 a month.

 

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Dr. Dre‘s soon-to-be ex-wife, Nicole Young, explained why she needs nearly $2 million a month in temporary spousal support.
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"According to Young’s documentation, Dr. Dre prevents her from using her American Express black card."


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Well we can see why can't we :rolleyes:. She would have probably bought the moon if he gave her the card.
 
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