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ih8socialism

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Whats your opinion about all that stuff happening right now in the US?

Google just banned parler, Donald Trump Michael Flynn and Sidney Powells twitter have been banned. Whats up next ladies and gentlemans? Did the big democratic purge just begin?
 
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Incoming tax increase(for the rich)! With the Dem's full in control now I would get the hell out of there..
The rich are they, and will never pay more! This is just for for mom and pop that made money from local business and SMB. What Google will do I don’t care, an APK can always been directly downloaded and installed, anyway I am having a look at the huawei HarmonyOS, way more freedom in China than in the USA right now, and EUSSR is on the same way.
 
not a trump supporter but I find it absolutely frightening that facebook and twitter are able to censor trump like that ... we are in the early days of corporations domination of the world.
 
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not a trump supporter but I find it absolutely frightening that facebook and twitter are able to censor this way ... we are in the early days of corporations domination of the world.
Twitter and Facebook are two private companies with their own terms of services, they can do whatever they want into their platforms
 
Twitter and Facebook are two private companies with their own terms of services, they can do whatever they want into their platforms
So as a pastry chef no problem if I don’t want to serve you a wedding cake if you are gay, am I right? If this is the rule, I am happy with that, but it isn’t. It is just pure and simple MARXISM!
 
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Twitter and Facebook are two private companies with their own terms of services, they can do whatever they want into their platforms
not denying this, still frightening that 2 single individuals are able to prevent the US president from communicating to hundreds of millions of people through those channels.
long term if nothing is done this is the perfect recipe for disaster.

at this point facebook and twitter should be classified as public utilities like internet, water or energy.
 
So as a pastry chef no problem if I don’t want to serve you a wedding cake if you are gay, am I right? If this is the rule, I am happy with that, but it isn’t. It is just pure and simple MARXISM!
0% comparable since in your example you haven't accepted the terms and conditions plus what you are saying is ilegal depending on which country you are living since someone is denying a service to use based on random stuff.

So yeah, I hate all kind of ultra left ideology but I don't see what's the problem of kicking you out of my platforms if you invalidate our contract
 
not denying this, still frightening that 2 single individuals are able to prevent the US president from communicating to hundreds of millions of people through those channels.
long term if nothing is done this is the perfect recipe for disaster.

at this point facebook and twitter should be classified as public utilities like internet, water or energy.
That means that it doesn't matter who you are, as long as you are in my platform I have the control and I put the rules. About classifying Facebook and Twitter as utilities, I think is not possible but maybe if someone creates a GOOD alternative into blockchain (maybe a DAPP?)... MAYBE a little portion of the population move to that decentralized option
 
That means that it doesn't matter who you are, as long as you are in my platform I have the control and I put the rules. About classifying Facebook and Twitter as utilities, I think is not possible but maybe if someone creates a GOOD alternative into blockchain (maybe a DAPP?)... MAYBE a little portion of the population move to that decentralized option
when something impact almost the entire population of the most developped countries on earth you can't just have the CEO pulling whatever he believes like that, you ought to have some kind of "democracy" on the governance of the platform.
clearly the future is in the hand of decentralized application relying on blockchain tech with decentralized governance, but a bit early for that at this time, pseudo democracy is the only option we have for now.
 
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0% comparable since in your example you haven't accepted the terms and conditions plus what you are saying is ilegal depending on which country you are living since someone is denying a service to use based on random stuff.

So yeah, I hate all kind of ultra left ideology but I don't see what's the problem of kicking you out of my platforms if you invalidate our contract
That means I can have a sign that says “no gays in my biz”...exactly the same rule FB and TW to kick them out not only the POTUS but also a lot of people that just think with their heads. This is plain Marxist censorship, the good thing is that US - and the EUSSR - have totally lost any possible legitimacy -that anyway they had only in the globalist sick minds - to overthrow govs all around the world.
 
That means I can have a sign that says “no gays in my biz”...exactly the same rule FB and TW to kick them out not only the POTUS but also a lot of people that just think with their heads. This is plain Marxist censorship, the good thing is that US - and the EUSSR - have totally lost any possible legitimacy -that anyway they had only in the globalist sick minds - to overthrow govs all around the world.
No you can't have that rule because it isn't legal in lot of countries and as a business owners will be an REALLY stupid decision, again 0% comparable. If you are going to give examples at least try to give one realistic.

when something impact almost the entire population of the most developped countries on earth you can't just have the CEO pulling whatever he believes like that, you ought to have some kind of "democracy" on the governance of the platform.
clearly the future is in the hand of decentralized application relying on blockchain tech with decentralized governance, but a bit early for that at this time, pseudo democracy is the only option we have for now.
I think democracy is that you are free to choose another option and everybody is free to request money, build their own platform and present their idea/work as an alternative. I'm against that mentality that others have the right to change how I want to run my business (and when I say "I" what I mean "we" cuz Facebook for example has lot of influence from many countries that are shareholders)
 
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I think the issue with Twitter banning Trump is, that its the US Goverment which basically grants them immunity to what is posted on their platform since they are not classified as a publisher. By banning Trump and people who are connected to him, they take a step from being a platform towards publisher.

Furthermore, what also confuses plenty of people is that Iranian gov is able to threat Israel and the US on Twitter without any consequences, or the chinese goverment openly confirming they are performing a genocide. I think these double standards are what makes most of these people going nuts lol
 
I think democracy is that you are free to choose another option and everybody is free to request money, build their own platform and present their idea/work as an alternative. I'm against that mentality that others have the right to change how I want to run my business (and when I say "I" what I mean "we" cuz Facebook for example has lot of influence from many countries that are shareholders)
I would agree but the problem here is there is little to no other options, we are talking about impacting the flow of information and communication for almost an entire society here, letting this in the hand of a 30 something is a little too much imho ...
I am all for a libertarian society but we still need some basic governance to prevent monopolistic position otherwise we are doomed.

in a way facebook twitter can control who speaks or not, apple and google can control what the majority of people can install on their phone ... this is getting really really bad imho
 
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I would agree but the problem here is there is little to no other options, we are talking about impacting the flow of information and communication for almost an entire society here, letting this in the hand of a 30 something is a little too much imho ...
I am all for a libertarian society but we still need some basic governance to prevent monopolistic position otherwise we are doomed.

in a way facebook twitter can control who speaks or not, apple and google can control what the majority of people can install on their phone ... this is getting really really bad imho
I understand your point and I understand why people is afraid about it but I can't accept that others have the right to control the way I do business, as long as what I'm doing is legal then no one can tell me how I should manage it because I already have lot of governments and companies taking actions into my business since they are big shareholders... Now if I grow a lot I need to allow everybody? What's the point of having a business then?

Facebook and Twitter can control who speaks IN their platforms, you can still speak in the TV, radio, podcasts, blogs, streets, business, places, others social platforms, forums, etc (just like always).
With Android and iOS is clearly different since they are really complex devices and software that the majority of people don't have an idea of how to build them but there will be options too (the problem is that no one does it better and customers go away from them) like Blackberry with Blackberry OS (people didn't like it... I like it), Nokia with Symbian (people didn't like it... I like it), Windows with windows phones (people didn't like... I like it) and a big ETC.

In my opinion no one that is not part of my business should tell me how I should manage it if I'm not breaking any rule.
 
No you can't have that rule because it isn't legal in lot of countries and as a business owners will be an REALLY stupid decision, again 0% comparable. If you are going to give examples at least try to give one realistic.


I think democracy is that you are free to choose another option and everybody is free to request money, build their own platform and present their idea/work as an alternative. I'm against that mentality that others have the right to change how I want to run my business (and when I say "I" what I mean "we" cuz Facebook for example has lot of influence from many countries that are shareholders)
Ok, what about if a create a business club where I only admit WHITE people? Shouldn’t be a problem, right? In fact US are plenty of clubs that only accept BLACK! Do u wanna see a really disturbing example?
have a look at this shitty people:
https://collab.capital/fund/investor-faqs/
 
Ok, what about if a create a business club where I only admit WHITE people? Shouldn’t be a problem, right? In fact US are plenty of clubs that only accept BLACK! Do u wanna see a really disturbing example?
have a look at this shitty people:
https://collab.capital/fund/investor-faqs/
Then do it if you want to rof/% as long as you find a way to make it legal and profit from it then do it. Dude you are in an offshore business forum, we are here because we like to build business that are not allowed in our countries without breaking rules (there are others that do like to break the rules but I prefer to sleep well at night).

Now in my opinion collab.capital is disgusting and as a black person I don't like the idea of only targeting people by skin color. If they are alive maybe it's because they found a way to do it legally as we like to do.