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I mean, that Cyprus will be the last option in the case that Monaco + Offshore Company with US LLC be useless.
Makes sense. US LLC for operational also makes sense, but you can't create substance because you'd make it a US tax resident. It is a pass-through entity, so it would be less likely to trigger Monagesque PE as a company.
Of course, the first option is Monaco. But I really don't want to generate structure in a country with few DTAs. Guernsey looks great because has DTAs with Monaco, Cyprus and european jurisdictions where i can go to live for low taxes as residency.
What do you need DTAs for in this scenario?
Do u think that i can use LU banks with a company in BVI? The minimun capital for open isn't a problem if they ask for something between 100k-1M, but i don't have experience with LU banks. I know that a lot of investment companies there to pay 1%, but i really zero experience in the country with banks.
Yes, exactly. I have gotten LU corp accounts (with both Intesa and Banking Circle) for Carribean companies. Other countries are doable as well, but LU is more "financially-influenced" I would say.

There are some relatively decent local banks in the region too. FCIB is usable if they open an account. Make sure to go through wire instructions first, a lot of them use EMIs as correspondents. For example, Hamilton Reserve in Nevis have Banco Santander as a correspondent for EUR SWIFT, but since they want to offer EUR SEPA too, they provide an IBAN in the bank's name at Satchel in LT. Deltec Bank in the Bahamas (for some currencies) is even worse - because the transaction does not go to the bank but to one of their partners (I guess - Privat 3 Money Ltd. - don't know its association, this was listed in their Apr 23 wire instructions) which is an EMI, but with an account at another EMI. So, you're receiving money with an EMI as the beneficiary, which might not be ideal.

EU EMIs are also not that difficult to get for full offshore companies, especially if you're willing to pay 1-2K for an opening and a few hundred monthly.
 
I have read many of your aggressive comments, which consist of hot air and no evidence or follow-up. You always have an answer to the charge, and your opinion is the only correct one.

Then come up with a suggestion for who it should be since you know better.

We are not in a guessing competition.
Thank you very much for your message. I was not aware of my tone being aggressive. I will try to watch my tone. Sorry about this and thanks for letting me know. I intended to help people here.

Correction: I once was aggressive, which was in regards to this guy from Morocco asking for visa option without any real info.
 
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Makes sense. US LLC for operational also makes sense, but you can't create substance because you'd make it a US tax resident. It is a pass-through entity, so it would be less likely to trigger Monagesque PE as a company.

What do you need DTAs for in this scenario?

Yes, exactly. I have gotten LU corp accounts (with both Intesa and Banking Circle) for Carribean companies. Other countries are doable as well, but LU is more "financially-influenced" I would say.

There are some relatively decent local banks in the region too. FCIB is usable if they open an account. Make sure to go through wire instructions first, a lot of them use EMIs as correspondents. For example, Hamilton Reserve in Nevis have Banco Santander as a correspondent for EUR SWIFT, but since they want to offer EUR SEPA too, they provide an IBAN in the bank's name at Satchel in LT. Deltec Bank in the Bahamas (for some currencies) is even worse - because the transaction does not go to the bank but to one of their partners (I guess - Privat 3 Money Ltd. - don't know its association, this was listed in their Apr 23 wire instructions) which is an EMI, but with an account at another EMI. So, you're receiving money with an EMI as the beneficiary, which might not be ideal.

EU EMIs are also not that difficult to get for full offshore companies, especially if you're willing to pay 1-2K for an opening and a few hundred monthly.

The substance will be in Guernsey for example, US LLC just as subsidiary of Guernsey company, because there are better Payment Gateways for USA than for offshore countries. :)

DTAs for if in future i move to an agressive tax country (example Spain), the money go through DTAs. So, less headaches.

I will check the option for LU banks. Looks like a reputable jurisdiction to maintain investments. Thank you so much for information, it's very valuable.

Oh, i can't use EMI for business. Turnover is mid-range 7 figures. Expecting go to 8 figures soon (maybe next year).
 
The substance will be in Guernsey for example, US LLC just as subsidiary of Guernsey company, because there are better Payment Gateways for USA than for offshore countries. :)
That would work. How about a US MSB that is not connected to the offshore company? MSB licenses are easy to obtain (with $5-20K to spend, depending on registration type, your involvement and effort and the state) and you'd only need 1 state served since you would only onboard yourself as the client, i.e. the US MSB would be a regulated (which doesn't actually mean it does much) payment processor for the offshore company. You would avoid any consequences of US substance and taxation while reaping the benefits of US banking and payment processors and the 0% tax rates. There are no rules against MSBs providing remittance services via payment processing solutions or to offshore companies! To the US, you are still, at least for now, a non-resident alien with a FinCEN-registered company.

This approach might seem a bit far-fetched, but you gain quite a lot from it. Your offshore company will no longer have any requirement for transactional banking. All it needs is to at some point be remitted the funds according to its payment processing contract. You have little to no legal implications, yet you offer a regulated service (to yourself). :cool: The only thing you will then need is for the offshore entity to send you and whatever employee payments and potentially invest its money (it doesn't really matter, but it makes the banks happy). Banks would rather onboard the "holding" of a Monagesque citizen that will only receive payments once in a while (and from the US) and sends a couple payments to individuals while making the money some nice fees on basic investments (why not?). The largest potential issue would be the fact that the US company would be holding the funds for some time, which a remittance provider is not supposed to do. But, if you find a bank for the offshore business that would not be so monkey-like as to just want to collect fees on investments, you would not necessarily experience an issue with releasing the funds.

Based on the general laws regarding MSBs in the US, this should be an applicable setup. In practice, I would say it is an achievable task, but definitely requires consultation with some lawyers.
DTAs for if in future i move to an agressive tax country (example Spain), the money go through DTAs. So, less headaches.
Makes sense, but I would never do that. Never lived in one, hopefully never will live in one (and I'd sacrifice my EUSSR citizenship if it meant paying taxes regardless of my residence, something like in the US).
I will check the option for LU banks. Looks like a reputable jurisdiction to maintain investments. Thank you so much for information, it's very valuable.
Yes, they do a good job for corporate banking. I presume you can keep your individual wealth in Monaco, I have not worked with the banks there. I have experience with LI, LU, CH - MC is on a different level for me maybe - I'm not a fan of spending much money on generic living costs.
Oh, i can't use EMI for business. Turnover is mid-range 7 figures. Expecting go to 8 figures soon (maybe next year).
There are still definitely EMIs that can handle such a scale, but far from an abundance. Good EMIs are scarce, but that does not mean they can't serve large-scale businesses.

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, whether you consider Guernsey or the BVI, Vistra will still probably be the best for this. I was checking some of my past communications there, where I also found that they assist with creating full substance in both of these countries after corporate registration. In that case, maybe you would not struggle as much with finding suitable employment options there. In addition, they also offer directorship services with people involved in a specific space - it can be of additional benefit.
 
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I think the advantage of BVI is that the registration is comparatively easier for active companies, while in Guernsey only a handful of CSPs are willing to work with such companies. Accounting in BVI is also easier as there are no audit and certified account requirements.

On the other hand, the reputation is levels lower and access to EMIs also suffers a lot.

In terms of employees, I think in both places you can only rely on your own dispatched staff.

What do you think?
 
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