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Andrew's Tate Zero Taxe Advice. (Works in UK and USA !???)
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I’m still flummoxed on all of this.
Business was a Romanian microcap
They used Stripe/other and deposited into their UK personal account / crypto account.
Tax evasion happened in Romania - not the UK, the UK argues because they are British and used their personal accounts and didn’t declare it in Romania it is therefore tax evasion in the UK, which is utterly ridiculous
1) using personal accounts for commercial uses although advised against isn’t illegal and as long as accountable is acceptable - I.e don’t co-mingle personal and commercial expenditure or funds.
2) crypto accounts for commercial entities in the era they were charged didn’t exist
3) just because they didn’t file accounts accounting for these sums doesn’t give the UK jurisdiction, Romania has the right to peruse for tax evasion.
Where I see they fucked up.
1) should have established a offshore entity (Seychelles etc)
2) should have hired a nominee director or local director
3) should have established themselves in a territorial tax based nation.
4) in that era they could have opted for nonCRS nations easily.
5) commercial or personal accounts wouldn’t make a difference.
They fucked up by thinking Romania was corrupt (it is) - in that era the banks also were very loose… - they created a target for themselves in the UK unrelated to their businesses but being brazen in their attitude and going against the system/establishment.
They were in the US but that’s only a reprieve they still need to return to Romania and a great deal of their assets if they can’t liquidated will be forfeited - their assets can’t simply be shielded by transferring as they are red-hot.
The UK won’t back down as they want them silenced like that Tommy Robinson lad.
One thing/area that has surprised me is how the UK haven’t already revoked their citizenship - they’ve done it for less to less noisy people - also does the UK have the right to reject passport renewals of non residents for tax matters - as that’s another area they could hit them.
Business was a Romanian microcap
They used Stripe/other and deposited into their UK personal account / crypto account.
Tax evasion happened in Romania - not the UK, the UK argues because they are British and used their personal accounts and didn’t declare it in Romania it is therefore tax evasion in the UK, which is utterly ridiculous
1) using personal accounts for commercial uses although advised against isn’t illegal and as long as accountable is acceptable - I.e don’t co-mingle personal and commercial expenditure or funds.
2) crypto accounts for commercial entities in the era they were charged didn’t exist
3) just because they didn’t file accounts accounting for these sums doesn’t give the UK jurisdiction, Romania has the right to peruse for tax evasion.
Where I see they fucked up.
1) should have established a offshore entity (Seychelles etc)
2) should have hired a nominee director or local director
3) should have established themselves in a territorial tax based nation.
4) in that era they could have opted for nonCRS nations easily.
5) commercial or personal accounts wouldn’t make a difference.
They fucked up by thinking Romania was corrupt (it is) - in that era the banks also were very loose… - they created a target for themselves in the UK unrelated to their businesses but being brazen in their attitude and going against the system/establishment.
They were in the US but that’s only a reprieve they still need to return to Romania and a great deal of their assets if they can’t liquidated will be forfeited - their assets can’t simply be shielded by transferring as they are red-hot.
The UK won’t back down as they want them silenced like that Tommy Robinson lad.
One thing/area that has surprised me is how the UK haven’t already revoked their citizenship - they’ve done it for less to less noisy people - also does the UK have the right to reject passport renewals of non residents for tax matters - as that’s another area they could hit them.
Years before Andrew became world famous he was a well known niche Twitter user (with, I believe, 50k followers at the time) and as I spent a few months in Bucharest I happened to have met him (randomly) at one of Romania's biggest clubs. I joined him visiting a beach club in Constanța the following day. Being a foreigner living in Romania was still somewhat of an exotic thing to do at the time and he was getting more known by the day. I was both amused and a bit worried (as I like to be anonymous) seeing myself standing with him on the front of a local newspaper the day after that. Andrew, and his brother, are friendly, welcoming, and quite calm in person. I must add they exaggerate their wealth enormously, but that's part of their gimmick and persona. And thus most likely their capability to evade taxes were quite limited (at the time). It doesn't seem unlikely they overplayed their hand by setting up a construction that doesn't work by living in Romania as a permanent resident. They were still involved in the cam business at the time and seemed very carefree to me, it seems Romania had no problem whatsoever facilitating the financial construction they had at the time. But that all got destroyed with the governments breathing down their necks years later.
Defend idiots from other people voicing out what morons they actually are.
That’s exactly what I thought too. I honestly can’t understand how the younger generation, especially those born between 2005 and 2025, can be so numb to it all and fall for the thousands of videos pushing the same message as Andrew Tate. Smartphones really haven’t done today’s youth any favors.
See @Frankie's link above:
Tate, who was also recently confirmed to be facing 21 similar charges in the United Kingdom, has built a cult following among boys and young men by offering life advice laden with glorification of violence and hatred towards women. The British-American influencer frequently shows off his own wealth online, and has bragged about having “seven passports,” without detailing where they are from.
Give some specifics.
Where has he specifically glorified violence and hatred towards women? Please show us some receipts.
Most of the things Tate says about the world and current events are accurate. And, of course, it's got plenty of bravado and bulls**t thrown in, but that's the character he plays.
Most of these charges are entirely unfounded, which is why the DIICOT case fell apart.
I think most people dislike Tate as they're jealous. The only negative I have on him is that most of his wealth comes from Hustler's University, where you are supposedly going to get hand-held by millionaire professors for $50 a month. It's a very good fake it until you make it story, but in general I don't like course sellers who make their cash from courses, not actually doing what's in them.
You can just google it.
There's a video where he brags about manipulating women to work as cam girls for him - making them fall in love with him and then telling them that the only way for them to be together is if they work for him as a cam girl.
There are also reports of girls who say they were beaten or otherwise intimidated by him.
He also brags about how his girls manipulated men to send them (=Tate) all their money.
Maybe not all of this is illegal, maybe some of it is illegal, but difficult to prove. Regardless, he's not a person I would want to be associated with.
I think it's problematic if the younger generation of boys/men actually see someone like that as a role model.
I don't mind the Hustler's University thing.
There's a video where he brags about manipulating women to work as cam girls for him - making them fall in love with him and then telling them that the only way for them to be together is if they work for him as a cam girl.
There are also reports of girls who say they were beaten or otherwise intimidated by him.
He also brags about how his girls manipulated men to send them (=Tate) all their money.
Maybe not all of this is illegal, maybe some of it is illegal, but difficult to prove. Regardless, he's not a person I would want to be associated with.
I think it's problematic if the younger generation of boys/men actually see someone like that as a role model.
I don't mind the Hustler's University thing.
@polonieth I do not think that any of those here that does not like him has much time left in his life for him. Neither are we jealous of such a high amount of bad publicity nor do we rely on showing off.
If you like him, good for you. Your father would be proud of you.
I think many here try to fly longer and decided it is better to fly under the radar. Some have more honourable income streams, some are on par with him. But as a general rule if your life depends on bragging, you probably have some mental problems to start with and later in your life a ton of bad publicity that it attracts.
If you like him, good for you. Your father would be proud of you.
I think many here try to fly longer and decided it is better to fly under the radar. Some have more honourable income streams, some are on par with him. But as a general rule if your life depends on bragging, you probably have some mental problems to start with and later in your life a ton of bad publicity that it attracts.
Every single Andrew Tate fan I met in real life is basically a replicant of the same prototype: Think he is edgy and smart (while consuming propaganda 24/7), love Putin, incel who low-key hates women, loves dictators, hate the West and call it immoral and indecent while worshipping a women trafficker and a MLM scammer...
They are all a replica of the same person because none of them really think for themselves, instead they just accept whatever opinion is fed to them by their favorite influencers.
Give some specifics.
Show some receipts, clips, and quotes that give context. Yes, we know there are allegations, yes, we know he's said he helped OnlyFans extract cash from simps. But that's different to glorifying violence towards women as claimed earlier in this thread...
Accuses others of blindly consuming propaganda and adopting second-hand opinions, yet repeats a popular narrative about Tate’s followers with zero nuance, mirroring the same behaviour it condemns . Extra props for getting Putin in there.
@polonieth I am not sure if you don't understand but I think nobody here is into searching the web and reading such useless nonsense. This is OCT which is a privacy-focussed community and Andrew Tate seems to be rather the opposite with his appearances. The thread is about how to structure your companies for low tax.
Neverheless, you have some good read here:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...s/news-story/6abdaf25fe904015a6361a0702c6c145
Neverheless, you have some good read here:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...s/news-story/6abdaf25fe904015a6361a0702c6c145
https://archive.ph/kYYw4
https://archive.ph/8Vy64
That's it, first two hits from Google. Probably won't change your mind, which is fine, I've already spent more than enough time on this nonsense.
Seriously, who cares about some random internet celebrity? What's next, debating Kim Kardashian?
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