Has coronavirus affected you already?

[iloveyouguys]

Based on what I read,
Expect +100,000,000 deaths from the virus in 2020.
Except recession until 2022.
I'd suggest everyone to make some good memories.

 

[Martin Everson]

But then they said we could walk the dogs...
guess what? police caught people walking fake dogs (puppets) to get out

You still got a good sense of humor at least. Stay safe

 

[OTR365]

Expect +100,000,000 deaths from the virus in 2020.
Except recession until 2022.

The current figures do not support 100M death at all. Nothing even close, unless the virus mutates with a WiFi box and starts spreading via the internet.

As to a recession until 2022, it is very possible, even a conservative estimate. Misery loves company, there's not one but Four Horsemen of Apocalypse, etc. This financial crisis could develop into a banking crisis, a sovereign crisis etc.

 

[Martin Everson]

I mean both ECB and Fed are saying they will do whatever it takes. The markets saw 100 fire trucks attending a fire i.e they saw a sign of how bad things actually are right now .

 

[Gediminas]

The markets saw 100 fire trucks attending a fire i.e they saw a sign of how bad things actually are right now

Firetrucks you say...

This is what's happening in my region. Lockdown.

 

[iloveyouguys]

The current figures do not support 100M death at all. Nothing even close, unless the virus mutates with a WiFi box and starts spreading via the internet.

As to a recession until 2022, it is very possible, even a conservative estimate. Misery loves company, there's not one but Four Horsemen of Apocalypse, etc. This financial crisis could develop into a banking crisis, a sovereign crisis etc.

Governments lie. Didn't you know?

 

[iloveyouguys]

Firetrucks you say...

This is what's happening in my region. Lockdown.

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Tank vs virus

 

[Gediminas]

Governments lie. Didn't you know?

So you say in China people now are secretly dying? Because if China won it, the rest will win it too.

 

[marioIT]

man,
the lombardy's governor has been asking for those tank destroyers like 3 weeks ago, when it was still manageable and people weren't believing this.
First lockdown was out, people were still sipping martinis in crowded bars, partying like nothing.
- he asked to close his region's borders to stop it from expanding, also asked to stop the flights from china. they said nope that's racist. then they had to stop them.
National government laughed at him, telling it wasn't democratic to have the army on the streets...
now you see who is the most stupid.

the army went there BTW no matter what the left-wing central government said... to take the coffins out of Lombardy as cremation centers and mortuary chambers were all full...
yep these are full of coffins

https://twitter.com/x/status/1240377636083433478

 

[Educate]

I can't go to gym anymore. Other than that - not really.

 

[iloveyouguys]

So you say in China people now are secretly dying? Because if China won it, the rest will win it too.

You should totally trust China with your life

 

[Gediminas]

You should totally trust China with your life

I totally trust my gut. And it is saying - don't worry too much, s**t happens every day, just be conscious.

 

[marioIT]

yep it's official, can't even tan on the beach now here in Italy...
ok ok, this is a bit too much even by my standards... a helicopter for three people really?

I would expect such a stunt from American police (I've seen them throwing flashbangs at kids, raiding wrong houses after days of prep lol), not from Italian suit dressed Carabinieri.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1240781263855853570

meanwhile in Miami...

 

[iloveyouguys]

yep it's official, can't even tan on the beach now here in Italy...
ok ok, this is a bit too much even by my standards... a helicopter for three people really?

I would expect such a stunt from American police (I've seen them throwing flashbangs at kids, raiding wrong houses after days of prep lol), not from Italian suit dressed Carabinieri.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1240781263855853570

meanwhile in Miami...

They deserve to die first because they have no problem killing others by infection.

 

[marioIT]

Italy: the national aviation authority has just authorized the flight of police drones without the need to respect flight laws... this to monitor and control people's movement in Italy.
(close to airports, privacy laws, min/max height, no pre-auth/flight plan etc). They now can flight under 15 meters whenever and wherever they want

Can you guess what I'm going to do if I see one above my property low enough to piss me off?

They're also working on a GPS tracking app on smartphones (only of the positives ones they say...).
I really think they're going to use spyware for this as there's no other way.
They already did the mobile cell tower tracking. this time they're saying GPS.
I know a few companies here that are deep into deep states affairs, have access to android and iPhone exploits and do this kind of thing for polices all around the world. A few of them also got exposed by wikileaks.
They already use this for criminal case investigations. And you don't realize the spyware is on.
But (normally) they can't do this without a criminal investigation going on.

This is happening while parliament is closed for coronavirus and these socialist ministers and PM are doing the f**k they want.
I have a feeling this is starting to get out of hand. If people start realizing this, it's going to be civil war.

I am hearing high-level army and police officials not happy with the way the PM is doing this stuff without asking the Parliament.
Troops are wishing an overthrow of this unelected government. Pretty much everyone is, apart from the generals/commanders close to the PM.
A few lawyers are saying these lockdowns aren't legal. Yet they are punishing people with fines and 3 months criminal charges.
Decree isn't 100% clear, there's plenty of cases where it's up to the police on the spot to decide who's to fine or not.
By the constitution, they can't lock up people if they aren't tested. Even then they could lock them for up to two days.

 

[Gediminas]

They're also working on a GPS tracking app on smartphones (only of the positives ones they say...).
I really think they're going to use spyware for this as there's no other way.
They already did the mobile cell tower tracking. this time they're saying GPS.

Hi, some Arab countries are doing that too. Also, Israel. I don't think it's a bad thing in general. Our main goal should be to stop the virus.

This is happening while parliament is closed for coronavirus and these socialist ministers and PM are doing the f**k they want.

Italy is not alone there. Many countries are forced to act similarly. Don't forget, we are fighting against the same enemy, so we should do whatever it takes.

 

[KJK]

They're also working on a GPS tracking app on smartphones (only of the positives ones they say...).
I really think they're going to use spyware for this as there's no other way.
They already did the mobile cell tower tracking. this time they're saying GPS.
I know a few companies here that are deep into deep states affairs, have access to android and iPhone exploits and do this kind of thing for polices all around the world. A few of them also got exposed by wikileaks.

For cell tower tracking you don't need any hacks, just SIM card with mobile data.

If they want access to your data (texts, photos etc.) they can use some exploit from one of the companies.
I think HackingTeam (Galileo) is from Italy - so your country has experience in it. I believe the payload is often delivered through redirect links, someone sends you link and you click it, or through manipulated website traffic with cooperation with ISP. Of course this is illegal and unconstitutional but don't be surprised if it is happening.

They already use this for criminal case investigations. And you don't realize the spyware is on.
But (normally) they can't do this without a criminal investigation going on.

This is commonly used against journalist and dissidents in dozens of countries; they do not need investigation and simply abuse it.

It is interesting that there was a sudden drop of 15 million mobile users in China, I still don't fully understand why.

This is happening while parliament is closed for coronavirus and these socialist ministers and PM are doing the f**k they want.
I have a feeling this is starting to get out of hand. If people start realizing this, it's going to be civil war.

Give someone power and it will be abused, prime minister, minister, local politician, law enforcement.
Give someone power in a state of crisis and it will be abused 10x.

And what is worse, in some things there may not be any way to return to the previous state because the new, abusive, one will be considered normal. Just look how USA looked before 9/11 and after (Patriot Act).

I am hearing high-level army and police officials not happy with the way the PM is doing this stuff without asking the Parliament.
Troops are wishing an overthrow of this unelected government. Pretty much everyone is, apart from the generals/commanders close to the PM.
A few lawyers are saying these lockdowns aren't legal. Yet they are punishing people with fines and 3 months criminal charges.

I'm pretty sure it isn't legal and if you did this in some countries or states, Texas maybe, I imagine huge resistance.

Decree isn't 100% clear, there's plenty of cases where it's up to the police on the spot to decide who's to fine or not.
By the constitution, they can't lock up people if they aren't tested. Even then they could lock them for up to two days.

I'm worried about Italy and how this will turn out. In the end the politicians may do more damage than coronavirus. All s**t is coming together at the same time, huge state debt, recession coming, pandemic virus.

I think Italy will also have huge impact on the future of EU and the eurozone. When Greece went bankrupt, many things were considered (leaving EU, returning to original currency... ) it was a big event and the economy of Greece is like 10 times smaller than Italy.

 

[tdk]

How things have changed in those "two weeks" since this original thread was posted, uh? Interesting to think about

 

[Martin Everson]

How things have changed in those "two weeks" since this original thread was posted, uh? Interesting to think about

I know you are new to the forum but why are you digging up so many old threads and posting on them with no useful info. If you trying to get your post count up this is not the way to do it.

 

[tdk]

I was not trying to carry out any evil plan. I just went through many threads looking for information related to my other post and added my contribution to the thread. I did not know this is not allowed? I am confused now. Does this forum not like people commenting?