Hi everyone,
if you don’t like lengthy posts, you might want to skip this one as I tend to get into detail. You’ve been warned!
I found this place while looking for information / planning my future and I hope to learn much more from you. Let me begin by introducing myself. I’m in my early thirties, born and raised in Belgium and I recently started out as a webdesigner and freelancer. It looks like 'profits before taxes' in my first year will be around 30000€. While I’m very pleased to get those results in my first year, truth is it’s barely enough to survive here in Belgium. Belgium is savage when it comes to taxes and paying over 50% is very common. Below is an example of what would remain after taxes.
In a nutshell, I would pay 5866,67€ in social security contributions and 5237,03€ in personal income tax (among other costs) on a pretty small salary. Absolutely nuts! Using the same numbers in the Netherlands, I would have 10000€ more in my pocket at the end of the year (without any tricks and not even using all tax discounts the government provides to starters):
Only 1114€ in social security contributions and 1285€ in personal income taxes! That’s only 8% lost in taxes while getting full social security coverage! At least they recognize poor people in the Netherlands Now when you double that 30000€ things get ugly too:
While paying a little over 25% in taxes still isn’t a disaster (when accustomed to Belgian rates that is), I would like to try and optimize much more than that. So for the next 2-3 years the Netherlands are fine, but I need a long term solution for when my turnover increases.
I’m very interested in Cyprus but I’m struggling to get clarity on a lot of details. I’ve been in touch with accountants but it always ends up in one mail with very basic information and no reply to a second one. What I would like to achieve (if even possible) is getting a non-dom status in Cyprus, register as a sole trader in Cyprus + incorporate in a foreign country. Next, I would like to invoice the foreign company 8500€/year as a sole trader (and pay 14,8% social security contributions on that, about 1258€) while getting the other profits tax free in dividends, as explained in this article:
Now, things have changed since that article was written as Cyprus introduced CFC rules on January 1st, 2019. However, according to Deloitte, CFC rules are not applied to foreign companies with profits under 750000€:
Source: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...ax/tax-alerts/CY_TaxAlerts_9_4_19EN_Noexp.pdf
Does this mean I could still manage a UK LTD from Cyprus, get a tax exempt status in the UK because I only have income generated outside the UK and receive the profits in dividends? Deloitte on UK corporate taxation:
Source: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...Tax/dttl-tax-unitedkingdomhighlights-2019.pdf
Deloitte on dividend taxation of Cypriot non-dom residents:
Source: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...ntivesIndividualsRelocatingtoCyprus_Noexp.pdf
As you may understand by now, my goal is to pay 0% corporate tax, 0% income tax and only a minimum in social security contributions. Would a UK LTD still be possible for this, do I need an LLP for this, or am I dreaming out loud and is none of this even close to possible? I might have to add that I want to start a webshop too so I need to be incorporated in Europe to use my favourite payment processor (Mollie, it’s the only one in Europe that allows CBD products). I won’t be doing anything illegal so no need for anonymity or offshore nominees (although I’m willing to go that far if it’s the only way to get everything tax free). Another thing I might have to add, I will have debt in Belgium soon (court case from the past, marijuana charges), so it’s important they cannot get their hands on my profits.
If you’re still here, thanks for reading all the way and I'm looking forward to your input!
if you don’t like lengthy posts, you might want to skip this one as I tend to get into detail. You’ve been warned!
I found this place while looking for information / planning my future and I hope to learn much more from you. Let me begin by introducing myself. I’m in my early thirties, born and raised in Belgium and I recently started out as a webdesigner and freelancer. It looks like 'profits before taxes' in my first year will be around 30000€. While I’m very pleased to get those results in my first year, truth is it’s barely enough to survive here in Belgium. Belgium is savage when it comes to taxes and paying over 50% is very common. Below is an example of what would remain after taxes.
In a nutshell, I would pay 5866,67€ in social security contributions and 5237,03€ in personal income tax (among other costs) on a pretty small salary. Absolutely nuts! Using the same numbers in the Netherlands, I would have 10000€ more in my pocket at the end of the year (without any tricks and not even using all tax discounts the government provides to starters):
Only 1114€ in social security contributions and 1285€ in personal income taxes! That’s only 8% lost in taxes while getting full social security coverage! At least they recognize poor people in the Netherlands Now when you double that 30000€ things get ugly too:
While paying a little over 25% in taxes still isn’t a disaster (when accustomed to Belgian rates that is), I would like to try and optimize much more than that. So for the next 2-3 years the Netherlands are fine, but I need a long term solution for when my turnover increases.
I’m very interested in Cyprus but I’m struggling to get clarity on a lot of details. I’ve been in touch with accountants but it always ends up in one mail with very basic information and no reply to a second one. What I would like to achieve (if even possible) is getting a non-dom status in Cyprus, register as a sole trader in Cyprus + incorporate in a foreign country. Next, I would like to invoice the foreign company 8500€/year as a sole trader (and pay 14,8% social security contributions on that, about 1258€) while getting the other profits tax free in dividends, as explained in this article:
Now, things have changed since that article was written as Cyprus introduced CFC rules on January 1st, 2019. However, according to Deloitte, CFC rules are not applied to foreign companies with profits under 750000€:
Source: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...ax/tax-alerts/CY_TaxAlerts_9_4_19EN_Noexp.pdf
Does this mean I could still manage a UK LTD from Cyprus, get a tax exempt status in the UK because I only have income generated outside the UK and receive the profits in dividends? Deloitte on UK corporate taxation:
Source: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...Tax/dttl-tax-unitedkingdomhighlights-2019.pdf
Deloitte on dividend taxation of Cypriot non-dom residents:
Source: https://www2.deloitte.com/content/d...ntivesIndividualsRelocatingtoCyprus_Noexp.pdf
As you may understand by now, my goal is to pay 0% corporate tax, 0% income tax and only a minimum in social security contributions. Would a UK LTD still be possible for this, do I need an LLP for this, or am I dreaming out loud and is none of this even close to possible? I might have to add that I want to start a webshop too so I need to be incorporated in Europe to use my favourite payment processor (Mollie, it’s the only one in Europe that allows CBD products). I won’t be doing anything illegal so no need for anonymity or offshore nominees (although I’m willing to go that far if it’s the only way to get everything tax free). Another thing I might have to add, I will have debt in Belgium soon (court case from the past, marijuana charges), so it’s important they cannot get their hands on my profits.
If you’re still here, thanks for reading all the way and I'm looking forward to your input!