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Looking for a country to make a high rentability real estate investment

If you look at places that are growing fast and are obviously going to be much richer in the future, along with real estate appreciation, Id look at South East Asia. Vietnam, Cambodia, and yes Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines and possibly Malaysia.

Latam America is stagnant, and so is Europe, Japan and the Arab world except the oil rich Gulf countries. (30 years ago though, eastern Europe was a great place to invest in real estate, an apartment in Vilnius bought in 1995 was a slam dunk.)

Then I think safe haven places with low tax that attract capital and high net worth individuals will just keep getting more attractive in the future. So Im bullish on real estate in UAE/Dubai, Singapore, Monaco, Cayman Islands and similar places.

Finally Africa is the only place that has a strong demographic tailwind, but it's not so easy to invest there as a foreigner as property rights and rule of law is weak, and land registry systems are bad. Still worth the risk, and when leadership goes from disastrous to merely bad, one can make a lot of money in African real estate.
Thanks and also thanks to @Dreamy

Your reply makes sense and actually recently I watched some Youtube videos to look exactly for emerging economies where the real estate itself can appreciate in price itself soon.

And I was looking into Malaysia, Cambodia, Thailand, and also Turkey.

For Dubai I was very pumped about it initially but heard something which makes sense to me that a top may be coming there as it's already too well known for investing and too many people have bought. Normally the biggest value comes before it takes off also like in Spain 7-8 years ago.

Also when I see how ROI (good rent to buy ratio) I want to understand WHY it is so high as normally there is a dodgy reason for that like in Spain but problem is I don't know other markets.

Even though my Spanish investment was a great success s far at least financially, I consider myself a noob and this area and knowing how much research and skill are needed in other investments I realize how I know close to nothing about real estate worldwide outside Spain.

So I'm not sure whom to trust. I watched on Youtube two channels, one is Andrew from Nomad Capitalist who I think deserves credit for discovering Georgia on time but the way he talks and promotes himself makes me very skeptical about his integrity and I read a lot of bad feedback about him.

The other channel was a more humble guy it's called Millionaire Migrate but I have no feedback about him so far.

They both recommended emerging economies and MM was the guy who advised against Dubai now.

All in all I think the biggest challenge is to find someone reliable to do the purchase and management for you abroad which is not an easy task. In Spain alone it took me many months until I found at least someone who is effective, the situation there is a disaster as generally people in Spain are extremely unreliable and most of them don't even reply, let alone how can you count on them to do serious business.

So I can imagine what is the situation in Afrika, probably 10 times worse.

So if you have any contacts to recommend or to hint how you found your local guys for management AND purchase in these remote countries it would be the biggest help and highly appreciated.

In Spain at least there are some guys who buy for you and they negotiate very well or find insane bargains (in Spain 20-30% discount is not uncommon) so it's worth it and also contributes to the final ROI a lot.
 
Yes and No. Being on the case at the moment, and keeping tabs with the market in St Petersburg and Moscow, both on the resale and the new development markets, have just reached a couple of interesting deals with a potential 7% net yield. Nothing to write home about. And believe me, I've done (already) a quite extensive due diligence and spoken to many RE firms thanks to my ability to communicate in the language and various ties to the country. Best options if you have no interest whatsoever in using the property is go for the newly-built small 25-35 sqm studios which offer the best net yield. In my case, as I'm looking at 1-bed at least it is a bit more tricky to get a good deal on new developments, so I'm evaluating the resale market.

That being said, if (and always a big IF) capital appreciation does materialize, that 7% could turn out to be 10-12% annualized in 5 years if/when things settle down geopolitically. But again, that's based on a large assumption I'm not sure everyone's willing to go with.

Hope this helps.

NVO
Your current yields are correct however there is one major point which you are missing in the game which makes them so attractive.
The next hyper stagflation event will be a commodity cycle.
Which country is the richest in the world in commodities ?
Which countries currency is linked or backed by Gold ?
Which country is going to sell Gas and Oil for prices at 4 times of current one ?

Its russia and that wealth also will meet its citizens.If citizens get wealthier automaticly the value of local real estate rises.
So i'm not so much interrested in in yields (although they are great if you want to use leverage via debt ) but more interrested in the big spike of real estate prices which when having its run you sell for opportunities in a country which will be highly negativly effected from the hyper stagflation

Also during that time BRICS will have already implemented their new monetary system to be not effected of the western downfall


You can now also add Russia is self sufficient thanks to the longterm sanctions and won't feel the discruption in supply bottleneck
 
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I've put 100K in a property in Spain 2 years ago and currently every month I get roughly 900 EUR pure net income after all taxes and expenses.

I'm very happy with the numbers and % rentability of this investment but very unhappy with some things related to Spain and the customer service I get for the management. (No okupas problem, we rent rooms so the money flow is quite stable and really no issues with that).

I'm looking to make a similar investment but in another country where I like generally the things more.

I know it's hard to achieve that ROI, or slightly worse ROI on the expense of getting excellent service.

But from my research if possible anywhere, I could see Batumi in Georgia, Dubai, or probably Cyprus.

I have zero experience in these countries so I'd appreciate if anyone has personal experience or at least has done some research and can quote precise numbers, and suggest contacts for local management. Or of course, suggestions for other countries.

Many thanks.
You have quite outstanding numbers - congrats! Also congrats on finding somebody at least semi-reliable in Spain :)

I have some numbers for you. A very nice $130k Tbilisi apartment bought (not by me) last December took couple weeks to find $800/month tenant. The said tenant left in April before end of her 1 year contract (losing deposit) and another couple weeks passed without finding another tenant yet - may have to lower price a bit. It's quite common in Georgia for people to want short-term contracts or leave early. A real estate agent handles this for 10%. The agents are not all angels but generally much better than Spain. 5% income tax. That particular apartment was honestly chosen because it was nice and absolutely no maintenance required at the moment, not to maximize returns - you probably can do slightly better.

Speaking of another apartment in Tbilisi I was getting 7.3% net in 2023 IIRC, didn't rent out in 2024.

Turkey doesn't work (sinking currency, rent controls, impossible to evict a paying tenant even if he pays way below market because of previous two items, unreliable and dishonest agents).

Central Bangkok condos give you 3.5% net if everything goes well. You may get lucky with resales but renting is not worth it.

Can't comment on Dubai, Cyprus or other locations mentioned. Cheers.
 
You can check out this youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheWanderingInvestor/videos

Be careful I think Nomad Capitalist (socialist) is not trustworthy , looks like an online guru, there was a thread about him on the forum as well, someone bought his ebook and said its not informative, maybe chat gpt generated
Montenegro - I think you are late to the party, prices went up a lot already, not much infrastructure in the country
Eastern europe - I think too late as well, 30 years ago would be be great, now the prices are quite high, maybe Budapest or Prague would be worth looking into ?
Dubai - I think poor quality real estate built by indians, new buildings being bult, new fancy district so the old ones start to devaluate rather quickly
I'd choose south east asia, maybe africa. Ive heard positive feedback about Bankgog, very modern and safe. affordable.
Maybe Ukraine/Russia could be interesting high risk play, I don't know, I wouldn't invest there personally
 
I have some numbers for you. A very nice $130k Tbilisi apartment bought (not by me) last December took couple weeks to find $800/month tenant.

Speaking of another apartment in Tbilisi I was getting 7.3% net in 2023 IIRC, didn't rent out in 2024.
These are really nice numbers.
How big is the $130k one and was it fully furnished? What's the location?
How did you find it?

One thing to keep in mind is the buying price. So if someone bought a property 5 or 10 years ago he might at the time had 5% yield but as the price of it went up after covid and also the rents so the yield is now higher. Getting close to 10% yield for buying today and renting couple weeks after is amazing!
 
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These are really nice numbers.
How big is the $130k one and was it fully furnished? What's the location?
How did you find it?

One thing to keep in mind is the buying price. So if someone bought a property 5 or 10 years ago he might at the time had 5% yield but as the price of it went up after covid and also the rents so the yield is now higher. Getting close to 10% yield for buying today and renting couple weeks after is amazing!
Thanks. The $130k apartment is about 60 sq.m., fully furnished, fine location (not far from Pekini street if it helps). Found through a real estate agent. But it's not close to 10% I'm afraid, more like ~6% if there are no more vacancies or expenses.

Agree fully that most good returns are seen with those who bought much earlier.
 
By the way there is practically zero risk of okupas if you rent rooms.

I have spent a lot of time in Spain and I have met many people from there, both investors and "casual people".

While okupas are risk if you rent the entire property to one person/family that "encapsulates" themselves alone inside, I have asked a lot and I have never ever to this date heard about a single case of okupas if you rent independent rooms to different people who live together in a shared apartment. Also from the experience of the people who manage our apartment and I guess tens of others apartments during many years.

With that being said I'm completely open to what you say and tha's my goal, even if I get a bit lower ROI, I would go somewhre else.

Do you have specific suggestions which come at least close to this ROI numbers?
That's because you have not researched enough. I know cases where that happens in your situation too. It is less likely, but still happens and there is a risk. They call them (now) "inquiokupas" (inquilino + okupa = tenant + squatter).
But I agree that the safest is to rent separate rooms to students. Their parents pay the rent, and they usually rent during the academic year and then they leave.
 
For what is worth, I have a contact in Dubai that is from East Africa who is knowledgeable of that part of the world (Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Kenya, Uganda, Sudan/South Sudan, etc), with whom I've realized good land deals (Kenya), and found some other gems (Uganda). My interest on the region was piqued by him and Ladislaz Maurice (the Wandering investor .com), as the profit potential there is clear to see, but you need to have boots on the ground and someone to follow things up to get the desired results (no sit and wait sort of approach). I wouldn't mind teaming with like-minded people to aim for larger opportunities. I also have started in fixer-uppers in Cambodia through a native local citizen, and the % yield is way above 20% (small amounts, not scalable, one time per property). However, there are land deals that with the proper capital do present exceptional value. I'm above all a numbers guy and the regions mentioned make sense to me (net returns always, worse case scenario in terms of costs and exit prices included). Alas, I can go only as far as my wallet allows, so I'm missing some opportunities, hence my post above. NO SOLICITATION OF ANY KIND! (@JohnLocke @Martin Everson @Sols !!!) , but I believe that it's about time we here at OCT thought about joining forces and doing some sort of a coordinated effort/fund, FFS...I do feel we could do really good things.

NVO
 
Over recent decades, I have been engaged by various entities with vested interests in the real estate sector across diverse international jurisdictions. My experience encompasses markets such as Russia, subsequent to the fall of the Berlin Wall, which precipitated a significant appreciation in real property values, particularly in prominent tourist destinations. It extends to Italy, a market characterized by almost perennial growth; Kenya, a destination highly sought after by European investors owing to its geographical proximity, favorable time zone, and economic viability; and Florida, notably following the collapse of the subprime mortgage bubble. A consistent and overarching factor critical to success in all global locales is the identification and engagement of a partner of demonstrable integrity and reliability. Failure to secure such a partner invariably leads to complications, whereby even an initially promising investment can devolve into an intractable predicament, often resolvable only through divestment, frequently at a considerable undervalue.

At present, I would counsel against investment in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) due to prevailing inflated acquisition prices. Notwithstanding purported guarantees of substantial annual returns, empirical evidence suggests that such projections often fail to materialize, with actual yields more realistically approximating, or potentially falling below, 4% per annum.

The United States market exhibits considerable dynamism and has consistently held my active professional interest. However, a quasi-mandatory prerequisite for investment therein is the establishment of a dedicated corporate entity. While the associated costs are not excessively prohibitive, this structure invariably impacts net profitability and necessitates a significant temporal commitment for the fulfillment of annual statutory obligations (including, inter alia, the management of incurred expenses, engagement of accountancy services, preparation of financial statements, and the remittance of applicable local, state, and federal taxes). Furthermore, in metropolitan areas such as Miami, securing one-bedroom apartments for less than USD 300,000 is increasingly challenging, and ventures into peripheral suburban areas entail heightened investment risk, in addition to being perceived as less desirable.

Russia, the current geopolitical conflict notwithstanding, is progressively manifesting as a jurisdiction with frontier market characteristics, marked by a considerable degree of commercial aggressiveness and a diminished certainty regarding the recognition and enforcement of proprietary rights when contrasted with other regions, such as Europe.

Kenya may present a viable option; however, my disengagement from that particular market spans over a decade, and I am consequently not positioned to furnish contemporaneous, actionable advice.

Turning to Italy, it is acknowledged that the jurisdiction presents certain intrinsic challenges, and the leasing of residential property to family units can, as is widely understood, precipitate difficulties. Nevertheless, certain strategic approaches exist to mitigate such risks (being of partial Italian heritage, I possess an intrinsic familiarity with such matters). Foremost among these is the utilization of short-term lease agreements. A real property asset designated for the temporary rental market, particularly one targeting the high-end segment, effectively circumvents many conventional landlord-tenant issues.
For instance:

  1. A compact apartment leased to university students will typically not be occupied for a continuous term exceeding one year, as students generally vacate the premises during the summer recess to return to their respective family homes.
  2. This demographic frequently benefits from parental guarantors, who are inherently averse to disputes and, most pertinently, formal eviction proceedings.
  3. The incorporation into the lease agreement of a provision establishing a right of access, akin to an easement (in Italian, "servitù"), can secure the landlord's prerogative to enter the premises without encountering undue legal or bureaucratic impediments.
Alternatively, and perhaps more advantageously, is the practice of letting individual rooms to separate tenants. (In Italy, it is not uncommon to encounter advertisements for rooms available "exclusively for female tenants," as this arrangement is perceived to offer greater assurance regarding the diligent maintenance and upkeep of the property). Such an arrangement ensures that any single tenant occupies only a portion of the property, thereby affording significant advantages for the swift and uncomplicated repossession of the entire leased asset, should circumstances so require.
The average rental rate for a student room in a city such as Rome is approximately EUR 500 per month. Consequently, a property comprising three such lettable rooms could command a market valuation in excess of half a million Euros. The identification of properties conforming to these specifications is by no means a facile undertaking, though it is not insurmountable. It necessitates comprehensive market knowledge, astute discernment regarding location and property characteristics, and a methodical search conducted with clearly defined investment parameters to ensure the selection of genuinely compelling opportunities.

Would you require further elaboration on any of these points?
 
Notwithstanding purported guarantees of substantial annual returns, empirical evidence suggests that such projections often fail to materialize, with actual yields more realistically approximating, or potentially falling below, 4% per annum.
This is complete BS.

People who buy today can expect 5-6% easily. If you buy it during the construction you can expect 6-8% as you'll be buying it at a lower price. If you bought it couple years ago you're already seeing ~8-10% if not more.

Good thing about Dubai market is that you have all the data available online so you can see sale prices for the same building, you can see the rents in that building, you can see how many times unit has been (re)sold and what prices etc. So it's all pretty transparent.

Just check out https://dxbinteract.com, https://propertymonitor.com or at the DLD website.
Even on propertyfinder at the bottom you have the table with prices for sold and rented units in that building.

You can also check the status of any construction in here:
https://dubailand.gov.ae/en/eservices/real-estate-project-status-landing/real-estate-project-status/
(if you don't know any just put word "residence" and press search and you get some "samples")

Property market there is really big and well regulated.