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Marc Rich

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I am not sure why anyone would pay even that much, when you can obtain a CBI passport from Dominica starting at $100k, which includes visa-free access to 144 countries worldwide.

The donation is only $100,000. There is also on top various government fees such as processing, due diligence, local agent fee etc. + Henley Professional fees (which are A LOT).

About visa-free numbers, you should check which countries you need to access rather than total number, as those numbers sometimes might not have the countries you need
 

Golden Fleece

Entrepreneur
The donation is only $100,000. There is also on top various government fees such as processing, due diligence, local agent fee etc. + Henley Professional fees (which are A LOT).

About visa-free numbers, you should check which countries you need to access rather than total number, as those numbers sometimes might not have the countries you need
Henley is a horrible company, but you do not need to use them. There are plenty of other licensed agents for the Commonwealth of Dominica's CBI program. For example, you can use The Nestmann Group, located in the U.S., or anybody else.

I am not sure why anyone would choose Vanuatu, even with a price discount. At least, not until they clean up their act. Unfortunately, a history of previous problems is often a harbinger of future problems. So, Vanuatu now has a bad reputation to overcome. This will result in extra scrutiny at border control offices for its passport holders.
 

lacomaco

Mentor Group Gold
I am not sure why anyone would pay even $90k, when you can obtain a CBI passport from Dominica starting at $100k, which includes visa-free access to 144 countries worldwide.
If you think Henley will do it for you for US$100,000 including all the government fees, costs and their professional fees then you are hugely mistaken. With the visa problems Vanuatu is not a good choice now I agree
 

Golden Fleece

Entrepreneur
If you think Henley will do it for you for US$100,000 including all the government fees, costs and their professional fees then you are hugely mistaken.
No one ever said that. Stop putting words into people's mouth. I cited the cost of the donation, because I am comparing apples and apples here -- not apples and oranges. So, I am comparing the cost of the Dominica donation ($100k) with the cost of the Vanuatu donation ($130). But even factoring in the government fees, the Dominican CBI program is still less, with visa-free access to the EU.

Everyone knows that there are roughly $25k in government fees involved with Dominica's CBI program, but I do not know the cost of the Vanuatu CBI government fees. Moreover, the Dominican CBI commission fees vary widely depending on the licensed agent. So, it is certainly worth shopping around.

In fact, if your join the top tier Sovereign Man membership, it has negotiated huge discounts on five different CBI programs, where you can save between $15,000 to $25,000 in commission fees, depending on the program. It deals directly with the country involved (including Dominica), which cuts out the agent fee. So, any prudent person will do deep research on this topic before committing to any particular program.
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lacomaco

Mentor Group Gold
No one ever said that. Stop putting words into people's mouth. I cited the cost of the donation, because I am comparing apples and apples here -- not apples and oranges. So, I am comparing the cost of the Dominica donation ($100k) with the cost of the Vanuatu donation ($130). But even factoring in the government fees, the Dominican CBI program is still less, with visa-free access to the EU.

Everyone knows that there are roughly $25k in government fees involved with Dominica's CBI program, but I do not know the cost of the Vanuatu CBI government fees. Moreover, the Dominican CBI commission fees vary widely depending on the licensed agent. So, it is certainly worth shopping around.

In fact, if your join the top tier Sovereign Man membership, it has negotiated huge discounts on five different CBI programs, where you can save between $15,000 to $25,000 in commission fees, depending on the program. It deals directly with the country involved (including Dominica), which cuts out the agent fee. So, any prudent person will do deep research on this topic before committing to any particular program.
I think clients are interested in the total cost, not just the donation... But I agree: Total Access is a very good place to be. I am a member ;)
 

Marc Rich

Active Member
I am not sure why anyone would choose Vanuatu, even with a price discount. At least, not until they clean up their act. Unfortunately, a history of previous problems is often a harbinger of future problems. So, Vanuatu now has a bad reputation to overcome. This will result in extra scrutiny at border control offices for its passport holders.

Vanuatu still holds value, even without EU visa-free. There are still tons of people who do not wish to hold Caribbean and would opt for Vanuatu instead. Yes, ok their process can be a bit messy at times, but I have experienced the exact same in the Caribbean. Vanuatu will now sell a huge amount to Russian Citizens, and after they will (hopefully) reduce the price by 20-25% making it still very attractive (as lack of EU visa-free is not the whole world).

My personal advice to Vanautu Authorities was that they should now focus on Russian clientele, and after to revamp their program with the DD to please the higher ups in EU and lower the price to still maintain a good stream of applicants.

Also reminder this is a SUSPENSION not a CANCELLATION, so naturally this leaves the door open for a reinstatement of EU visa-free waiver.

There is also a chance that Vanuatu could successfully address the EU concerns before the suspension takes place in May, having the suspension lifted before taking effect, my fingers are crossed for this also :)
 
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captain9

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Is it a donation or an investment normally? Can I invest in an apartment that I rent out later? When can I sell it? Dominica? Vanuatu? Others?

What are the advantages over a residency in Paraguay for example that you can get for $5k in 90 days? ATM there is no problem getting EU visas for Russian passport holders so visa free for me is not a priority. I am interested more in protecting my account in interactivebrokers, Wise and opening more accounts in decent banks. Is it easier to open accounts with a Dominican passport over Russian passport with Paraguayan residency?
 
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Golden Fleece

Entrepreneur
Some potential new developments regarding the Vanuatu CBI program:
The EU has decided that Vanuatu’s investor citizenship programmes have major flaws that potentially represent a risk to the EU, based on meticulous monitoring and assessment. These flaws include: Extremely low application rejection rate, which raises security concerns and low-grade due diligence. Absence of physical presence or residence required by Vanuatu, offering short processing periods and lack in information exchange with applicant’s origin country. Granting citizenship to applicants who are listed in the Interpol wanted database. And, persons obtaining citizenship whose origin country requires a visa to travel to the EU.

This information seems rather odd. Since when did the EU require any CBI program to require a physical presence or residence in the CBI country? And did the EU ever require a CBI country to have an information exchange with an applicant’s origin country?

And banning persons from CBI programs because an applicant's origin country requires a visa to travel to the EU? Indeed, visa-free travel is one of the major selling points for CBI programs.

Are these really new potential EU requirements for CBI programs that offer visa-free travel to the EU? Or is this just an erroneous news article? I find this a bit hard to believe. Unless banning Russian citizens from CBI programs is now a ruse to also prevent a large number of other people from obtaining CBI passports. Such restrictions would ban CBI programs for those who need a second passport the most.
 

Marc Rich

Active Member
Is it a donation or an investment normally? Can I invest in an apartment that I rent out later? When can I sell it? Dominica? Vanuatu? Others?
It is a donation to a social wellfare fund, so not really an investment. In Dominica you can purchase real estate, but I would not recommend this for many reasons.
What are the advantages over a residency in Paraguay for example that you can get for $5k in 90 days? ATM there is no problem getting EU visas for Russian passport holders so visa free for me is not a priority. I am interested more in protecting my account in interactivebrokers, Wise and opening more accounts in decent banks. Is it easier to open accounts with a Dominican passport over Russian passport with Paraguayan residency?
It is for sure easier to bank anywhere with 2nd passport. Paraguayan residency with Russian passport will not help much outside of Paraguay. You can get UAE residency in 1-2 days and bank in the UAE just as easily. Many Russians who were not before interested in any 2nd passport, are now getting them in order to continue using services like the ones you have mentioned.

Unless banning Russian citizens from CBI programs is now a ruse to also prevent a large number of other people from obtaining CBI passports. Such restrictions would ban CBI programs for those who need a second passport the most.
Even those that have publicly stated that they have banned Russians - are still doing some Russian files, and those that will in the near future ban Russians - will also keep doing those files.
 

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