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Where/how to host the website so that the US officials don't treat you like they treated Kim Dotcom?

iloveyouguys

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Where/how to host the website so that the US officials don't treat you like they treated Kim Dotcom?

This is a hypothetical question of course, because if it wasn't I probably wouldn't ask here.
 

mange38

Entrepreneur
This largely depends on the type of website and/or content you want to publish.

You need to go through each and every single thing necessary to host a website and identify the weak points (TLD, domain registar, network, ...)

i.e. it makes no sense to host a website on some remote island which has favourable laws yet a terrible internet connection
 

Sols

Entrepreneur
Don't upset US officials and you're fine.

If you do, place yourself physically somewhere US cannot reach. I wouldn't place a web server in those locations as the connectivity is probably going to be dreadful and expensive (small island nations or third-world countries).

Instead, have multiple redundancies and set them up as anonymously as possible.

As @mange38 mentioned, TLD is also important. Diversify and have redundancies. All .com and many other TLDs are under US control even if you register them through some "offshore" registrar.
 

iloveyouguys

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Don't upset US officials and you're fine.

If you do, place yourself physically somewhere US cannot reach. I wouldn't place a web server in those locations as the connectivity is probably going to be dreadful and expensive (small island nations or third-world countries).

Instead, have multiple redundancies and set them up as anonymously as possible.

As @mange38 mentioned, TLD is also important. Diversify and have redundancies. All .com and many other TLDs are under US control even if you register them through some "offshore" registrar.
ALL of the internet is under the control of US, regardless of domain type. Correct me if I'm wrong. So I think one's goal would be to protect his identity in case shit happens. The biggest problem in this case seems to be how to use the money you earn.
 

Sols

Entrepreneur
ALL of the internet is under the control of US, regardless of domain type. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Depending on how simplistic of a view you want to take on the topic, I'd say that it is not correct. While the US has enormous influence and vast-ranging powers, it does not have complete, unilateral control the internet.

For example, .to, .ch, .se and .is are only subject to Tongan, Swiss, Swedish, and Icelandic law respectively, which is why they are popular alternatives to those wary of for example .com. US authorities cannot simply take down a .se domain, but it could probably leverage political pressure to try to convince Sweden to take action. This is less likely to succeed in countries hostile or indifferent to the US.

However, many ccTLDs (country code top level domains) are under US control by being administered by or through US universities. The University of Puerto Rico administers several Caribbean and American ccTLDs.

The US does not control the ISPs, physical cables, data centers, POPs, and other parts of the internet that's outside of US jurisdiction. But ICANN and IANA are very important organisations for the internet's architecture and both are US companies. Since a 2016, this influence has been decreasing through an internationalisation process.
 

SaintVince

Active Member
More information would help us help you.
as previous comments described there are two issue:
1) registration and control of domain - can be done through several non us/eu companies that will ignore DMCA notifications.
2) hosting - also better choose a company that would not shut down your website on first notice.

again even these companies will not support illegal activities. So everything above should work if you opeRate in grey zone.
 

Martin Everson

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Where/how to host the website so that the US officials don't treat you like they treated Kim Dotcom?
When FBI sends a letter to your ISP your website goes offline or gets redirected...did I miss something? Not sure which ISP anywhere in the would deny an FBI request to protect a web hosting provider but anything is possible in far flung anti-US locations. :confused:.
 

iloveyouguys

BANNED MEMBER
But ICANN and IANA are very important organisations for the internet's architecture and both are US companies.
Can't these organizations basically shut down your domain or manipulate the traffic related to your domain, even if your domain is .to, .ch, .se and .is?
 

Sols

Entrepreneur
Can't these organizations basically shut down your domain or manipulate the traffic related to your domain, even if your domain is .to, .ch, .se and .is?
It has so far never happened that ICANN or IANA have been required to shutdown or block IP addresses or domain names. Not to the worst of the worst of criminals. I don't know if that's for technical, legal, or practical reasons.

You can of course go hide on TOR and use a .onion domain. It all depends on what you're doing and from whom you're hiding.
 

mange38

Entrepreneur
It has so far never happened that ICANN or IANA have been required to shutdown or block IP addresses or domain names. Not to the worst of the worst of criminals. I don't know if that's for technical, legal, or practical reasons.

You can of course go hide on TOR and use a .onion domain. It all depends on what you're doing and from whom you're hiding.
There's not that much to it, really. Look up a few of these sites and write down which registars and TLDs they use...

DDoS protection and the server itself is the major weak point.
 

mange38

Entrepreneur
Indeed, it would be all over social media, especially HN or similar. Remember when Sweden took TPB's .se domain? It was all over the Internet, there's probably 500+ articles about it lol.
 

Stol9r1

New member
A year ago I found a great and high-quality hosting for my site, but the price of its services wasn't affordable for me. But thanks to the Interserver promo code I managed to get a good discount on Imterserver Hosting services, and now I still use high-quality hosting services. I don't think anything similar can be done with bitcoins. Therefore I don't support the idea of introducing bitcoin as a payment method. I also don't understand why to enter bitcoin as payment. It's not backed up by anything and constantly changes in price. Today you can pay one price for bitcoin, and tomorrow it maybe twice as cheap and it turns out that you needlessly overpaid for something that is cheaper today. In addition, paying with bitcoins limits the ability to negotiate a price.
 

Dasboot

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Kinda depends on the purpose, if free speech is the thing then .is and a server on Iceland will totally work.

For my personal site I've chosen .is, it also fits in with my brand name - looking at hosting it on distributed networks now :)

In my case I just want to reserve my RIGHT to publish what the f... I want, so .is on top of a good server would do!
 
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