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How & Why the EU Can Confiscate Your Wealth If You Can’t Explain It

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In an attempt to fight organized crime and boost the tax income for governments, the Spanish presidency of the European Union and the local parliament have reached a new agreement regarding asset confiscation.

The new directive covers all the countries in the EU and it’s likely to affect countries that are hoping to join anytime soon, such as Moldova or Ukraine. This new law brings in some minimum requirements in terms of tracing and identifying criminal property.

The so-called unexplained wealth is often associated with criminal activities, even if the aspect could only involve income that hasn’t been taxed. In other words, the money can come from legal activities, but dodging taxes means it’s illegal.

According to Felix Bolanos, the Spanish minister for justice,The gains from criminal activities are staggering. Only if governments have the means to claw back these profits do they stand a chance of fighting organized crime.

That’s exactly what led to the new directive, which aims to give governments an option to get their claws on these profits.

The law is likely to affect anything that involves illegal money. While masked under the idea that it’s aimed at criminal activities, such as trafficking or terrorism, the truth is it will affect any type of income, including those who are clever enough to avoid taxes.

The directive does feature a series of obligations for governments as well. For example, all the staff involved in such activities must be well trained and qualified. Furthermore, technological, financial and technical resources must be made available by governments.

What’s unexplained wealth?

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Unexplained wealth has different definitions in different countries, but they all revolve around the same concept. In other words, someone has unexplained wealth if their total wealth has a value greater than the value of legal wealth.

If you make $2,000 a month from a regular job and you purchase a property worth $1 million without even getting a mortgage, something’s fishy. Sure, there are all kinds of extras, such as the partner’s wealth, inheritances and investments, not to mention wealth left behind by parents.

All these things are clearly taken into consideration when assessing a case.

Someone’s wealth is the total sum of all the items and services they own, properties, vehicles, art, you name it. Services they offer and benefits are also included in the overall calculation of personal wealth. When there’s excessive wealth that can’t be explained, it’s likely to be targeted.

Is this a new thing?

Not at all. In fact, many countries are already running some sort of mechanism targeting unexplained wealth. Look at the so-called barons from Eastern European countries, living in mansions worth millions without having other sources of income rather than their public pay.

In the Czech Republic, public people can lose their wealth and belongings only if they’re targeted by legal investigations. Local laws and regulations target everything of value. That includes properties, as well as valuables.

A similar law exists in Denmark. Once a legal procedure is started, confiscation is naturally part of the process. In many cases, the wealth is frozen until the investigation is over. If the respective individual is found guilty, confiscation occurs. Goods are then sold, and the money is used by the government.

Finland is the same. Confiscation isn’t possible out of nowhere, but only if the targeted person is part of a legal investigation. Confiscated goods are very well managed in order to avoid deterioration. Confiscated property in Finland is sold or used by the government to host local authorities.

Legal prosecution serves as a solid argument for wealth confiscation in Lithuania as well. Again, it all starts with a freezing procedure, which also affects the overall right to own property in the country. The prosecution can order confiscation if the verdict is positive.

Unlike laws and regulations in these countries, Ireland has a different status. Unexplained wealth can be confiscated in more situations, whether they involve a legal or a civil investigation. Property is usually sold at auction, while cars are sold through local dealerships. Money is then used by the government.

While not part of the EU, Moldova has similar laws. Public people declare their wealth and if something doesn’t make sense, an investigation will be started, which may lead to freezing assets and even confiscation. The issue mainly affects local politicians.

New measures for recovery offices
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Unexplained wealth isn’t all about corruption or criminal activities. International sanctions will also be covered by the new law. For example, unless things change in the immediate future, Russian wealth can be confiscated by governments imposing sanctions on the country.

Furthermore, these sanctions may also lead to other companies and people taking advantage of them. It doesn't mean they can still benefit. Their wealth will be seized in the exact same way. There will be no difference between a legitimate company and a drug cartel.

In terms of requirements, countries in the EU will need to establish or reinforce their asset recovery departments. These departments will have to work together and cooperate to trace assets. You got that right, this means data sharing over multiple countries.

The primary role of these offices will be to identify criminal money. Then, they’ll trace and investigate assets, along with national authorities and even the public prosecutor of the EU. Freezing and confiscation will naturally follow up.

While such things are far from becoming reality yet, it normally depends on the country. Some countries are well digitized and will have no issues giving such offices access to relevant registers and databases. Other countries will struggle, such as some of those in Eastern Europe.

What caused the changes?

Such rules were already in place, there’s nothing new there. However, they’re now tighter and more secure. They’re more aggressive towards those with unexplained wealth, but there’s a reason wherefore they came out at this time.

Whether obvious or not, it’s all about Russia. The EU isn’t even trying to hide the main reason behind these new laws. They’re aimed at increasing the capacity to identify people from Russia and Belarus who can be sanctioned.

It’s hard to believe that local governments will go against their own.

Look at the Romanian president, Klaus Iohannis. He used to work as a professor and managed to purchase six homes. It takes the average Romanian a lifetime to pay the mortgage for just one home. When asked why people can’t afford six homes, he blamed it on bad luck and smiled about it.

Look at former Bulgarian politician Delyan Peevski, who became a local mogul using his media empire. No one can prove how he’s managed to get that money. In fact, he’s also blacklisted by countries like the UK. Will this new law target him? It should, but chances are it won’t.

The new directive has been originally drafted in 2022, but it took the authorities about a year to come up with a final result. According to officials, organized crime is one of the biggest threats to safety within the European Union.

Based on Europol’s statistics, criminal bands have an estimated income of over $140 billion a year.

Asset tracing eased

Linking assets to original owners is one of the most difficult challenges during a criminal investigation. Such assets are often spread around to other people or even legal entities and companies. Ownership is complex and difficult to track, especially when hidden in offshore jurisdictions.

This is the second main reason wherefore the new law has been introduced.

To make sure the system works by the book, the authorities require immediate access to ownership details, which isn’t always possible.

Given the recent sanctions over Russia and Belarus, it became pretty obvious for officials that tracing assets for seizure is more complex than believed.

Every country in the EU has an asset recovery office, but it often gets stuck. Surprisingly for some, it’s not always because of complex structures, but also because of the lack of proper human resources. The situation is even more problematic when it comes to cross-border investigations.

In the spring of 2022, the EU has introduced the so-called Freeze and Seize Task Force, only to ease the cooperation between different institutions. Again, the primary reason was the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

Seizing and freezing belongings
Authorities often seize assets during criminal investigations. The seizure isn't final, though. Everything still belongs to the original owner until the verdict is given, yet they don't have access to these assets. Seizing is not everything, as maintenance should also be considered.

Given all the legal requirements, authorities can easily get stuck. Maintaining a property may require extra expenses. The same applies to vehicles. In all EU countries, the authorities are legally forced to maintain items. If the case is dismissed, everything is returned.

If one asset, in particular, lost its value because of improper maintenance, the owner can ask for compensation. Again, while there are asset management offices in all countries, the new law will define their responsibilities in a more effective manner.

At the moment, seized assets are kept in a relatively secret manner, so there's not much info going out. Info isn't collected systematically either, and the new law aims to change all that.

Collecting assets during criminal investigations

Criminal investigations take years, and that explains the low degree of confiscation. During an investigation, the authorities need to prove that confiscated items are related to crime. The process takes time and isn't always successful.

With the new law, non-conviction based confiscation could become reality. There's a different type of proof investigators need to find the link between the respective asset and a crime. Again, there's a high balance of probabilities and doubt here, so it's hard to be 100% accurate.

This concept is more likely to be used against politicians, who hide the money they steal by investing in art, luxury goods or real estate. They even hold accounts in various European countries, thinking they’re less likely to be investigated while they have the power.

Even when not in power, it often takes more than a decade to prove them guilty. While not European, Ben Ali’s case raised by a Tunisian court is one of the most popular examples.

Some countries have already implemented different systems. The UK has unexplained wealth orders, yet the country is no longer in the EU. In this case, authorities can start an investigation when someone’s wealth doesn’t coincide with their sources of income.

Whether in the UK or other countries, being successful in seizing assets implies collaborating with auditors, banks and providers. All of these companies and professionals must also follow some laws regarding politically exposed persons.

How many such cases do you know? Exactly! Unless corruption is obvious and the press finds something worth sharing, such things never happen. Sure, they’re more popular in corrupt countries of the EU, but not that popular in the UK.

The law as it is

At the moment, the law is aimed at all sorts of crime. This means you could get assets frozen and confiscated for selling drugs or trafficking people, as well as providing legit services without registering a company and paying taxes.

Tax evasion and even freelancing work could also be targeted, not to mention corruption. Any type of crime can be targeted. However, it’s important to remember that the directive was originally introduced to target people from Russia and Belarus.

This is the primary focus of the authorities. But as time goes on, chances are the law will be applied to other types of crime as well.

How to avoid it

Obviously, keeping a low profile is the easiest way to avoid getting affected. Showing off luxury items and fancy cars will draw attention. Keeping a low profile, investing money away and enjoying fine holidays without bragging is the way to go.

Bottom line, it’s important to know that doing things legally won’t get you in trouble anyway. Taking advantage of asset diversification and low taxes by doing business in different jurisdictions is perfectly legal, so you shouldn’t have any issues proving it.

Even those who try to dodge taxes in an illegal manner will most likely get away with it for a while, unless their wealth becomes obvious and flashy. In the future, things may change, but priorities are crystal clear. First, it’s Russia. Second, it’s organized crime. Third, it’s the average Joe.
 
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F****ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

So, now I have to get clarification of what OKX deems EEA/EU....

Taking into account whether they deem Monaco

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or CH

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or the UK...

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...part of the EEA even though they are NOT officially! stupi#21

Thanks for sharing this. I have to jump on this right away!

PS. To those untrained with how "others" classify outside their area of knowledge and competence.... I've seen COUNTRIES (shitty ones, of course) classify a TRUCK as a sports car in order to levy extra import duties even though the manufacturer and its engineers testify it is a TRUCK and NOT a sports car. The people classifying the TRUCK as a sports car barely had a high school education, let alone being engineers...but they had weapons ... and plenty of guns and they outnumbered my clients :mad:

@JohnnyDoe and @wellington

How would you tackle this issue if you were in Monaco and Zug, CH (assuming OKX would ignorantly categorize the whole continent as EU)? :rolleyes:
 
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F****ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

So, now I have to get clarification of what OKX deems EEA/EU....

Taking into account whether they deem Monaco

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or CH

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or the UK...

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...part of the EEA even though they are NOT officially! stupi#21

Thanks for sharing this. I have to jump on this right away!

PS. To those untrained with how "others" classify outside their area of knowledge and competence.... I've seen COUNTRIES (shitty ones, of course) classify a TRUCK as a sports car in order to levy extra import duties even though the manufacturer and its engineers testify it is a TRUCK and NOT a sports car. The people classifying the TRUCK as a sports car barely had a high school education, let alone being engineers...but they had weapons ... and plenty of guns and they outnumbered my clients :mad:


@JohnnyDoe and @wellington

How would you tackle this issue if you were in Monaco and Zug, CH (assuming OKX would ignorantly categorize the whole continent as EU)? :rolleyes:
id assume the whole continent of eu is pretty much doomed until deep reforms and deregs take place. To my distaste and big fears, this seems far away as most people will call for deep socialist rules before that is going to happen.

id address it with: "habibi come to dubai "or somewhere else outside eu.
;)
 
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yeah there is another thread here from today
 
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...part of the EEA even though they are NOT officially! stupi#21

Thanks for sharing this. I have to jump on this right away!
You know, sometimes it really makes you think about how ridiculous things can get, or how the powers that be reckon we'll just buy anything they're selling. But, honestly, it seems like a good 90% of folks don't bother looking into stuff any further and just gobble up whatever the news and the government feed them, no questions asked.
 
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The anonymity of crypto-assets exposes them to risks of misuse for criminal
purposes. Anonymous crypto-asset accounts as well as other anonymising
instruments, do not allow the traceability of crypto-asset transfers, whilst also
making it difficult to identify linked transactions that may raise suspicion or to apply
to adequate level of customer due diligence. In order to ensure effective application
of AML/CFT requirements to crypto-assets, it is necessary to prohibit the provision
and the custody of anonymous crypto-asset accounts or accounts allowing for
the anonymisation or the increased obfuscation of transactions by crypto-asset
service providers, including through anonymity-enhancing coins.
The prohibition does not apply to providers of hardware and software or providers
of self-hosted wallets insofar as they do not possess access to or control over
those crypto-assets wallets .

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Source P.104, https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2014_2019/plmrep/COMMITTEES/CJ12/AG/2024/03-19/1297044EN.pdf via EU cash cap and ban on anonymous crypto payments results in financial paternalism
 
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The anonymity of crypto-assets exposes them to risks of misuse for criminal
purposes. Anonymous crypto-asset accounts as well as other anonymising
instruments, do not allow the traceability of crypto-asset transfers, whilst also
making it difficult to identify linked transactions that may raise suspicion or to apply
to adequate level of customer due diligence. In order to ensure effective application
of AML/CFT requirements to crypto-assets, it is necessary to prohibit the provision
and the custody of anonymous crypto-asset accounts or accounts allowing for
the anonymisation or the increased obfuscation of transactions by crypto-asset
service providers, including through anonymity-enhancing coins.
The prohibition does not apply to providers of hardware and software or providers
of self-hosted wallets insofar as they do not possess access to or control over
those crypto-assets wallets .

------ QUOTE ------

Source P.104, https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2014_2019/plmrep/COMMITTEES/CJ12/AG/2024/03-19/1297044EN.pdf via EU cash cap and ban on anonymous crypto payments results in financial paternalism
I foresee a brain drain from the EU.
 
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not the north korean version.
I used to think this too...until a long-time Chinese supplier in Chang Chun, Ji lin Province, took me on a trip to North Korea... That sh1t was WILD AF! I only went because I trusted the supplier with my life, as he trusted me with his. NGL, I was scared sh1tless! rof/% This was much before Dennis Rodman went to North Korea :oops:

It's NOTHING like the <<<media>>> "reports."

There are tens of thousands of North Korean cross-border workers/commuters in Russia and China. ;) Which is insignificant compared to North Korea's population.

I learned so much from that trip! I especially learned that "our people in their gang under the ruse of government robbing us of 50% of the fruits of our labor" HATES us with a passion. Nothing they say is true! NOTHING! There are NO exceptions! ca#"!

Chang Chun, Ji lin Province April 2005
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*** This specific supplier has been my lifeline for decades, even when the founder was a scientist/employee for a multinational in the US. Both companies are still so great today. My supplier has the best product in the market. It's trading on the SZSE Component Index. These guys have retired me 100s of times. Not all heroes wear capes.

What a time to be alive! hap¤#"

Furthermore, these guys (unrelated to my supplier) do tours to North Korea: Can North Koreans Travel Abroad? — Young Pioneer Tours


PS. *NO* - I did NOT even take a camera into North Korea. Not even a suitcase. I didn't want to be "frisked" or have my mobile cloned or whatever the West's indoctrination machine was able to "inculcate" in my feeble brain. smi(&% I am stupid but NOT suicidal. smi(&%
Much to my chagrin, the people were cool AF, and nobody bothered me. The food and service were outstanding. They would NOT even stamp my Western passport because they told me I would be f*cked if Western governments and their vassal states found out I was in North Korea. Talk about freedom....Go figure... stupi#21

PSS. The girls in North Korea were stunning...if you are into Asian girls. I am personally NOT into Asian girls!
 
I used to think this too...until a long-time Chinese supplier in Chang Chun, Ji lin Province, took me on a trip to North Korea... That sh1t was WILD AF! I only went because I trusted the supplier with my life, as he trusted me with his. NGL, I was scared sh1tless! rof/% This was much before Dennis Rodman went to North Korea :oops:

It's NOTHING like the <<<media>>> "reports."

There are tens of thousands of North Korean cross-border workers/commuters in Russia and China. ;) Which is insignificant compared to North Korea's population.

I learned so much from that trip! I especially learned that "our people in their gang under the ruse of government robbing us of 50% of the fruits of our labor" HATES us with a passion. Nothing they say is true! NOTHING! There are NO exceptions! ca#"!

Chang Chun, Ji lin Province April 2005
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*** This specific supplier has been my lifeline for decades, even when the founder was a scientist/employee for a multinational in the US. Both companies are still so great today. My supplier has the best product in the market. It's trading on the SZSE Component Index. These guys have retired me 100s of times. Not all heroes wear capes.

What a time to be alive! hap¤#"

Furthermore, these guys (unrelated to my supplier) do tours to North Korea: Can North Koreans Travel Abroad? — Young Pioneer Tours


PS. *NO* - I did NOT even take a camera into North Korea. Not even a suitcase. I didn't want to be "frisked" or have my mobile cloned or whatever the West's indoctrination machine was able to "inculcate" in my feeble brain. smi(&% I am stupid but NOT suicidal. smi(&%
Much to my chagrin, the people were cool AF, and nobody bothered me. The food and service were outstanding. They would NOT even stamp my Western passport because they told me I would be f*cked if Western governments and their vassal states found out I was in North Korea. Talk about freedom....Go figure... stupi#21

PSS. The girls in North Korea were stunning...if you are into Asian girls. I am personally NOT into Asian girls!
interesting thing, didnt know that. Never bothered to ponder the nk situation (bc its completely outside what i need nor do) and im just paraphrasing "common knowledge". Seems like you really need to dig into every single topic.
 
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So, let's say you've been playing by the rules, paying all your dues and taxes, basically just doing what's expected in the whole welfare state setup we've got in so many places, right? Then they can't just come in and grab your stuff, can they?

I mean, I'm not sure how anyone weighed down by all those taxes could even start to pile up some cash or assets, but just imagine if, somehow, you did manage to do that. What happens then?
 
So, let's say you've been playing by the rules, paying all your dues and taxes, basically just doing what's expected in the whole welfare state setup we've got in so many places, right? Then they can't just come in and grab your stuff, can they?



I mean, I'm not sure how anyone weighed down by all those taxes could even start to pile up some cash or assets, but just imagine if, somehow, you did manage to do that. What happens then?
Just stick to keeping most of your funds in Bitcoin, the asset that no one can confiscate from you, set a 12-24 secret recovery phrase - write down and hide the words in several places. Your funds will be with you wherever you go in the world and you will be able to leave them for your future generations by preserving wealth over the time.
 
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"Bottom line, it’s important to know that doing things legally won’t get you in trouble anyway."

This is exactly what is giving everyone a wrong sense of security, which is just not there if legal codes get changed in a heartbeat.
I wish I could call you out for lying, but sadly, I've been down that road with the tax folks myself. Everything was straight as an arrow, and yet, I ended up with a fine and had to cough up tax on something I should've gotten a deduction for. Crazy, right?
 
I ended up with a fine and had to cough up tax on something I should've gotten a deduction for. Crazy, right?
You are 100% right! Everyone on OCT has probably gone through the same thing or knows someone who has. I saw Leona Hemsley get lambasted, and later, the IRS refunded her 1.6M—meaning they made a mistake—and she did prison time. Her crime? Saying, "Only the little people pay taxes."

Ohhhh...and get this....they buried that story (somewhere). I have a copy, but it is on an old computer. HELMSLEYS DUE TAX REFUND, DEFENSE SAYS (Published 1989) ***

The actual court file where they refunded her the money was SEALED! Yes...you read that right...it was SEALED. ca#"!

*** rof/% Yes, as an OCT member remarked on my TG: "Man, you are old smi(&% "
 
So, let's say you've been playing by the rules, paying all your dues and taxes, basically just doing what's expected in the whole welfare state setup we've got in so many places, right?
Then they can't just come in and grab your stuff, can they?
why not, you'd be surprised?
they write the rules and interpret them as they want when you end up in court... the can bend them in any way they want.
I've seen it plenty of times in every major EU country.

I've seen entrepreneurs going to court for a punctuation error of the tax officer that sent the letter... or for mistakenly putting one or more zeroes in the end...
they wanted to grab their houses... they didn't want to double check their papers, they would not answer. They just started the countdown on you: 30 days to pay, else take us to court or we send the bailiff o_O
and then spending xxxxx€ of lawyers and living like s**t for years just to confirm it was a tax agency mistake.
Even if you win, the judge will never order the tax agency to refund your lawyers fee in full cause they consider the amount you paid too much...
And they're so bastards that they will find an old law not letting you use that money as credit on next years tax return.
So it's just worthless paper: you won, you're right, but they'll not give back your money easily, will not pay your lawyer in full and you can't seize the money from the tax agency bank accounts...
but remember how quickly they can seize yours!

It's not an equal fight. Try to avoid it.

ALSO, I was one that did all the things by the book.
One time i had a flat to rent somewhere in EU.
A guy wanted it. I heard he was a tax officer. So I had to register the rent and do all by the book. Paying the stamps and all the BS was requested at that time.
The whole street, and I mean every other rented flat in that street, was not registered and nobody was paying taxes on rent.
Everyone knew it, included the tax officer that was living in mine. Do you think he cared? He minded his own business... heard they even joked at work about this.
My accountant did a mistake declaring that rental income in that year tax returns. The rent was registered correctly, it was added as income and so I paid taxes on that correctly, but he omitted it in another section of the tax declaration (used for statistical reason not really for tax), I've got no advantage from omitting that.
The law was not clear, they issued a directive after, but the first ones all got shafted this way stupi#21

After a few years got a letter telling me I was being fined because they considered omitting that statistical section as a partial tax declaration, same as tax evasion, but I hadn't evaded a single cent. stupi#21
So I still got a fine, not huge, not cheap.
The accountant said it was way cheaper to pay the fine than pay his fees to start a case... stupi#21
If I had not registered the rent, I wouldn't have to pay any taxes on it, I would have got no fine as I wasn't on their register.
So in some countries their employees are so lazy that they check only those that voluntarily added themselves IN the system.
They don't go door to door to fine the ones that aren't in their lists, also cause they would have to fine their relatives ;).

sometime you have to ask if accountants are part of the system too (I know the answer smi(&%)


 
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sometime you have to ask if accountants are part of the system too (I know the answer smi(&%)
They are in some way since they make money of the stupid regulations governments dictate the average business owner.

This old grandpa is falling in sleep.
 
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They are in some way since they make money of the stupid regulations governments dictate the average business owner.
You are so right! I didn't want to comment on this earlier because I have already mentioned lawyers being an "officer of the court" for decades, but a good rule of thumb is anyone who needs a license/authorization from the "government" to operate is a potential enemy of the people! Of course, there are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

This old grandpa is falling in sleep.
Ditto!

PS. From a very young age, +1 and above, the people around me (mom, dad, grandparents, etc) have always been at least 30 years older than me. Even today, most people I personally know in the physical world and do business with are older than me. It's impressive how one gains real education, knowledge, and wisdom from life like this. What is taught in schools is so far away from reality that it's mind-boggling!
 
PS. From a very young age, +1 and above, the people around me (mom, dad, grandparents, etc) have always been at least 30 years older than me. Even today, most people I personally know in the physical world and do business with are older than me. It's impressive how one gains real education, knowledge, and wisdom from life like this. What is taught in schools is so far away from reality that it's mind-boggling!
I couldn't agree more with you. I've learned the most from hearing stories of people who've lived lives differently compared to the 'sheeple', not from sitting in lecture halls. Their experiences have a richness that no amount of book learning can match. Sadly, I fear this kind of knowledge will fade as more people blindly follow their government's lead and narc on their fellow humans for thoughtcrimes.
 
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My imaginary friends are not terribly concerned about this ;)
I left the UK in 2010s

Would only visit annually to aid my grandmother with her charity commitments

Don’t own property in the UK
Grandfather dead (2017)
Mother dead (2021)
Grandfather dead (2024)

Leaves

Father
Grandmother
Grandmother

Those are “connections”

Also three siblings
2 don’t talk to (nothing really to discuss)
1 talk to about every few years

Under UK law it’s very hard therefore for the Government to get a grapple on the jurisdiction of me

1 real estate is outside of their jurisdiction
2 banking is outside of their jurisdiction and I don’t bank in pounds
3 children / wife non UK citizen (Kids can claim but UK gov are not informed till they want to claim and non-resident)

Circle of life is outside of their jurisdiction

- low touch points that are vague and not enough to grapple.

Don’t do business in the UK, through the UK or with the UK.

So for me it’s very simple I am not impacted

My only connection to Europe is Switzerland - I pay a tax there and that’s that but Swiss isn’t part of the EU and in addition a lot of connections with the UK were severed when Brexit happened - for example my wife a Swiss tax payer like myself (RE) would usually get a two year visa - the ambassador had to authorize it last time as they would only give a visa based on the period she intended to visit based on treaties being cancelled.

Same applies to data sharing etc

Then it comes to connection (mentally) - the UK for me has long discontinued to be “home” I’d only visit for familial charity commitments otherwise had little interest in the place.

Europe I enjoy but as I’ve gotten older I’ve also toned down my traveling around Europe - and prefer just to visit historical sites and eat cake and drink chocolate on the slopes - I’m more Asia focused and generally have holidays in East Africa (Zanzibar/kenya/Tanzania etc) opposed to say Paris-Rome-Madrid

Basically I’ve gone anti west

And it wouldn’t take much for me to cease to being a British Subject - there’s no benefit except visa free travel and as it stands no non resident tax.

I couldn't agree more with you. I've learned the most from hearing stories of people who've lived lives differently compared to the 'sheeple', not from sitting in lecture halls. Their experiences have a richness that no amount of book learning can match. Sadly, I fear this kind of knowledge will fade as more people blindly follow their government's lead and narc on their fellow humans for thoughtcrimes.
On this Jafo most of my associates/friends are 30-40 yrs older

The youngest being 10 yrs
 
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