Investment Opportunity smart parking lease in China up to 5% monthly (SCAM)

[jesuschrist]

This sounds like a good investment, but I don't want to invest in a pirate again, the PTSD.

Off topic:
More than 10 years ago when I was a stupid kid I invested about 100 BTC to Bitcoin Savings and Trust, on the bitcointalk forum, to a guy named pirateat40 who had a pirate as his profile picture.
I still don't know why I did that

At that time it wasn't a big loss, my virtual casino in Second Life covered that L$ loss in a few days, but I promised I will never send money to a pirate again.

 

[fgtv123]

100% certain this is scam now after new research without any doubt.

 

[yomboloz]

Guys this reminds me of a recent MLM/pyramid scheme that came crashing down in the Balkans just a few months ago, it was again about high monthly yield investment in China, but this time for those Mobile Phone Powerbank rental spots. Proceed with caution. It was called BETL

Edit: I am not saying OP is a scammer. Based on his history most likely he was just misguided by those people in China. It makes no sense why they would not just take a government or private bank loan, but instead choose to pay 45-50% annually interest to random people online.

 

[Meta]

Lol mate, that is funny,

You will sign investment contract directly with the company + KYC
I dont even touch your money

Also, if you want to sign a NDA + commitment of deposit you are welcome to go China to visit the site with management and legal team.


Something I forgot to mention is that the company will handle the conversion from CNY to USD/USDT for pay-outs, if investors prefer they can receive CNY directly.

Mate, you are being funny with this "5% a month investment", "you will have everything, but later".

For record, this guy sells cards from HK with the same "PM and I give you all the details". I did, he sent me details of unrelated company. I asked to prove some claims in the ad topic like "30 years of experience", he could not. He was pretending to be a representative of a company to which he is not related. Apparently he is doing the same again, but now to collect $10k+

Admins, how is it even allowed here? Like, 5% per month doesn't happen, we all know that. It's a ponzi scheme at best, but most likely just a scam. Why is it allowed?

 

[Bruce flea]

Mate, you are being funny with this "5% a month investment", "you will have everything, but later".

For record, this guy sells cards from HK with the same "PM and I give you all the details". I did, he sent me details of unrelated company. I asked to prove some claims in the ad topic like "30 years of experience", he could not. He was pretending to be a representative of a company to which he is not related. Apparently he is doing the same again, but now to collect $10k+

Admins, how is it even allowed here? Like, 5% per month doesn't happen, we all know that. It's a ponzi scheme at best, but most likely just a scam. Why is it allowed?

Although im not so sure about this project/ product ( looks totally off )
but for the records the Crypto cards hes selling work very well .. and I know several members posted good reviews too + good support

 

[fgtv123]

This looks to be the actual company he's impersonating.
&
This is the fraudulent one that he's showcasing.

 

[Bruce flea]

This looks to be the actual company he's impersonating.
&
This is the fraudulent one that he's showcasing.

Now it make more sense..

 

[Meta]

Although im not so sure about this project/ product ( looks totally off )
but for the records the Crypto cards hes selling work very well .. and I know several members posted good reviews too + good support

Yep. But he advertises it as a "licensed trustee with 30 years of history" and saying it's from unitrustglobal.com (which itself is 5 years old), while he posted screenshots showing it's some www.cardplus.cc thing without any company/license information on the website.

 

[Qzejol]

Mate, you are being funny with this "5% a month investment", "you will have everything, but later".

For record, this guy sells cards from HK with the same "PM and I give you all the details". I did, he sent me details of unrelated company. I asked to prove some claims in the ad topic like "30 years of experience", he could not. He was pretending to be a representative of a company to which he is not related. Apparently he is doing the same again, but now to collect $10k+

Admins, how is it even allowed here? Like, 5% per month doesn't happen, we all know that. It's a ponzi scheme at best, but most likely just a scam. Why is it allowed?

Yep. But he advertises it as a "licensed trustee with 30 years of history" and saying it's from unitrustglobal.com (which itself is 5 years old), while he posted screenshots showing it's some www.cardplus.cc thing without any company/license information on the website.

You are being utterly disrespectful, I am just checking our private chat, you just asked something but you never replied back, if you were not satisfied with my answer why you did not tell me or asked me something more instead of spitting your hate here?
You are clearly not familiar how business work, some companies are the trustee, some others are the branding. We buy things from one place and resale in a other, it is never just 1 company. My cards have been working for years. Not even a single customer has left a bad review, so what is exactly your problem now ?

100% certain this is scam now after new research without any doubt.

This looks to be the actual company he's impersonating.
&
This is the fraudulent one that he's showcasing.

It is very sad to read such comments from someone like you, however I can understand the confusion.

But these 2 are the same company, I just asked internally, we will give you 100% proof this way:
You will soon see appearing in the wisdomep.com website (the company I should be impersonating) the smartparkzyt.com website too (the company you say is fraudulent and i am showcasing)
It will be just like this

Just wait some time and it will appear, I just asked the company to do so.

And here is why,
1) Chinese companies do not always have a professional english PR team.
2) Chinese companies sometimes have different english terms and it doesnt mean the name of the domain is the name of the company.
3) In this case, let us clarify:

Registered Chinese Business Name : 深圳智优停科技有限公司 (Translation: SHENZHEN ZHI YOU TING PRIVATE LIMITED)
Their preferred English Business Name: SHENZHEN P-IOTEYE TECHNOLOGY CO LTD
Their chinese domain name: www.wisdomep.com

Registered HongKong Business Name: Smart Parking Technology(HongKong) Limited
Their preferred English Business Namel: Zhi You Ting Smart Parking Technology (Hong Kong) Limited
Their english domain name: https://www.smartparkzyt.com/

We just sent a feedback and they will standardize.

It will take max some days and it will be fixed, in the meantime we can all relax and chill.

Thanks everyone

 

[Qzejol]

Anyone else that has doubts, but is genuinely interested, is welcome to have a zoom meeting with the company directly and/or visit the facilities in person.

 

[drysponge]

exciting thread!

It makes no sense why they would not just take a government or private bank loan, but instead choose to pay 45-50% annually interest to random people online.

i haven't seen the contracts, but from what i understand you aren't being offered a bond, you are a partner in n parking spots, you could foresee a million potential risks that if a loan was used the forced repayments could cause an issue. i don't think its absurd. (no/low sun for a month, reduced solar efficiency over time causing more down time than expected, weather event breaking them, just plain old bad placement.. etc)

 

[Qzejol]

i haven't seen the contracts, but from what i understand you aren't being offered a bond, you are a partner in n parking spots, you could foresee a million potential risks that if a loan was used the forced repayments could cause an issue. i don't think its absurd. (no/low sun for a month, reduced solar efficiency over time causing more down time than expected, weather event breaking them, just plain old bad placement.. etc)

Exactly, it is a co-development contract where you basically buy the machines and the company installs and manages them.
There is an article in the contract "Force Majeure" that indeed says that if any natural disasters or similar happen both parties should not be deemed in breach.
Also banks already invested and loaned maximum amounts.

I appreciate all questions and feedbacks, I am not the main person behind this, just a point of contact, so always need to go back and forth to get replies to your questions.
I did not know anything about this even 1 month ago, I am just learning, but I will go to visit them in China soon.

 

[drysponge]

I did not know anything about this even 1 month ago, I am just learning, but I will go to visit them in China soon.

how did you get introduced/involved with this project, someone you have done business with before?

 

[Qzejol]

how did you get introduced/involved with this project, someone you have done business with before?

I have some good old friends that are always around China / Hong Kong, been doing business with them since 2021. They invested into this approx. 1 year ago and now bought a very large allocation and became partners. They proposed me to help them and here I am, i will also join them in the next trip

 

[Meta]

You are being utterly disrespectful, I am just checking our private chat, you just asked something but you never replied back, if you were not satisfied with my answer why you did not tell me or asked me something more instead of spitting your hate here?
You are clearly not familiar how business work, some companies are the trustee, some others are the branding. We buy things from one place and resale in a other, it is never just 1 company. My cards have been working for years. Not even a single customer has left a bad review, so what is exactly your problem now ?

I'm asking "Can you prove your claim of 30 years experience?".
You are answering "The card bin is 123456 belonging SomeCardPartner Ltd".
What should I ask more? "Excuse me Sir, can you read? As it does not have anything to do with my question".

I just decided to not use the service of somebody lying in their ads but I shouldn't have let this slide that time.

Hey there, your topic says cards are "issued by Hong Kong trustee with proven 30 years track record of activity". If I'm not familiar how business work, can you enlighten everybody here which entity has that track record? Is it unitrust (company registered in 2019), cardplus.cc (not even name of company) or banking partner (also from 2019). Or was you just lying about your credentials? My problem is you pretending to be a partner of somebody trustworthy while this "somebody" is not that trustworthy and you refuse to prove you are a partner. Along with "send me $10k in crypto" it does look like scam. I don't want scammers here - it's quite a nice forum and I enjoy it.

 

[Qzejol]

I'm asking "Can you prove your claim of 30 years experience?".
You are answering "The card bin is 123456 belonging SomeCardPartner Ltd".
What should I ask more? "Excuse me Sir, can you read? As it does not have anything to do with my question".

I just decided to not use the service of somebody lying in their ads but I shouldn't have let this slide that time.

Hey there, your topic says cards are "issued by Hong Kong trustee with proven 30 years track record of activity". If I'm not familiar how business work, can you enlighten everybody here which entity has that track record? Is it unitrust (company registered in 2019), cardplus.cc (not even name of company) or banking partner (also from 2019). Or was you just lying about your credentials? My problem is you pretending to be a partner of somebody trustworthy while this "somebody" is not that trustworthy and you refuse to prove you are a partner. Along with "send me $10k in crypto" it does look like scam. I don't want scammers here - it's quite a nice forum and I enjoy it.

Hey Meta,
You will find your answers if you seek until the bottom of the pond,
Trustees usually have participations within other trustees.
Again, it is never 1 company, never.
My answer I thought would have explained it, I am not the main person behind, so if it was not enough or wrong you could tell me. I also make mistakes, does not mean I am lying on purpose.
We can provide the 30 years old info only If you are seeking to build your own card brand and white-label like we did for the cards we selling, my DMs are open to discuss with you the whole operation.
But if you want to call me liar, I do not care, do not buy my card, everyone else is happy.

My problem is you pretending to be a partner of somebody trustworthy while this "somebody" is not that trustworthy and you refuse to prove you are a partner. Along with "send me $10k in crypto" it does look like scam. I don't want scammers here - it's quite a nice forum and I enjoy it.

I just told you I asked the company to change their website, please read above, once these changes take place you will see I am a partner.
Please take screenshot of the website now and you will see the changes later.

Thanks

 

[Clank]

Is there a possibility of auditing the revenue generated by each parking spot directly?

Is there a possibility of getting the serial numbers and location of the parking spaces?

 

[Qzejol]

Is there a possibility of auditing the revenue generated by each parking spot directly?

First of all, each parking spot generates different revenue because it is not possible that every car park in the same spot for the same number of hours everyday. Hence the revenue report that is generated is based on a specific area in a city which will house X number of parking spots. These data are being shared with the local government and also the main party which is leading the co-development. If you are interested to view this data, please pre-arrange a session with the team to have a walkthrough.

Also please keep in mind that the profits split you get are just an average of the whole city. Lets say City X is composed by 1000 parkings, in which A owns 250 B owns 250 and C owns 500,
If you are A you profit split will be 1000/250
So your profit is not your machines specifically but an average of the whole city based on your contribution %

Is there a possibility of getting the serial numbers and location of the parking spaces?

Yes. Each parking spot that has been allocated are authorised by the local government with an unique number so that in the system that the parking company build with them, they are able to identify exactly which car is parking at which spot at which time.

All these questions could be answered through a visit to one of the sites or the parking company itself in Shenzhen.

 

[Meta]

Hey Meta,
You will find your answers if you seek until the bottom of the pond,
Trustees usually have participations within other trustees.
Again, it is never 1 company, never.
My answer I thought would have explained it, I am not the main person behind, so if it was not enough or wrong you could tell me. I also make mistakes, does not mean I am lying on purpose.
We can provide the 30 years old info only If you are seeking to build your own card brand and white-label like we did for the cards we selling, my DMs are open to discuss with you the whole operation.
But if you want to call me liar, I do not care, do not buy my card, everyone else is happy.

Once again I'm asking "Can you prove your claim of 30 years experience?" and of course you are not lying, you can prove. On a small condition: "I just need to want to build my own card brand".
Also you can provide more info on this investments, one just needs to commit $100k and fly to China.

Obviously nobody is going to do that and, oh so convenient, you are can claim anything you want soliciting crypto investments for "5%/month returns". Nah that's not normal.

I just told you I asked the company to change their website, please read above, once these changes take place you will see I am a partner.

You didn't tell that to me, it was another person. I will see that you are a partner if the website says you are a partner. Just as I offered to do in the beginning - it would clear a lot of suspicions and I would wish good luck in your ventures. If the website adds link to some other website... Well, I will see that the two are related, that's it.

 

[Qzejol]

Once again I'm asking "Can you prove your claim of 30 years experience?" and of course you are not lying, you can prove. On a small condition: "I just need to want to build my own card brand".

We wont tell you the name of the 30years trustee, you could go an create your own business and be a competitor + is not safe for the whole business. That is all.
If the information supplied is not enough for you to buy a card, well do not, but do not spread hate.

Also you can provide more info on this investments, one just needs to commit $100k and fly to China.
Obviously nobody is going to do that and, oh so convenient, you are can claim anything you want soliciting crypto investments for "5%/month returns". Nah that's not normal.
You didn't tell that to me, it was another person. I will see that you are a partner if the website says you are a partner. Just as I offered to do in the beginning - it would clear a lot of suspicions and I would wish good luck in your ventures. If the website adds link to some other website... Well, I will see that the two are related, that's it.

Commit does not mean investment, there is no obligation to send funds.
If you do not want to take the trip we can arrange a zoom meeting with the company, or more.
Ask questions, do not spread fud or call scam, let me resolve your doubts first.
One investor is going in June for example, just because you do not want to take a flight does not mean nobody else will.

Today someone called it scam because there were 2 different websites, now I have requested changes to clarify the situation and they will appear soon, so you will see i am not impersonating anything.
I will also ask if we can do something for the "Qzejol as a partner" if those changes are not enough.