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Mark Rucken

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What would be a foreign company? I'm forming a llc that will not operate within USA, I'm a foreigner and I don´t live there also, and still not qualify for "Foreign", almost the same setup thar @sdip mentioned. That's why i was asking-
Foreign company is an entity organized outside USA (Europe, Asia, Africa etc.).

If you incorporate in any State in USA, even if you do not do business in the USA, you are treated as a domestic company and should apply for EIN by fax or mail.
 

happyjohn

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You don’t have to call, obviously. Calling just gets you the EIN faster. It’s fine to apply on paper...
great information. I was believing that it was impossible for an foreigner to get a EIN for his company which is most often required to get any banking.
 

JustAnotherNomad

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Lol. No, not at all. Service providers like IncFile usually offer to apply for the EIN for an additional $50 or so if you don’t want to send the fax yourself. An EIN is extremely easy to get, all it does is confirm that the company is correctly registered with the IRS. It is not a tax residency certificate. You can even get an EIN for foreign companies, such as if you want to sell on Amazon’s US website as a European company.
 

Mark Rucken

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Lol. No, not at all. Service providers like IncFile usually offer to apply for the EIN for an additional $50 or so if you don’t want to send the fax yourself. An EIN is extremely easy to get, all it does is confirm that the company is correctly registered with the IRS. It is not a tax residency certificate. You can even get an EIN for foreign companies, such as if you want to sell on Amazon’s US website as a European company.
True, but you still need to fill SS4 Application form CORRECTLY. I have seen people do messy stuff with their application, so my recommendation is to hire a professional.

As for the call, of course you do not need to call. IRS will mail/fax original letter to your mailing address indiciated on the SS4 form. Calling them can get you the number a few days faster over the phone, but you will still have to wait for the original confirmation to arrive to your address.
 

eadeveloper

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True, but you still need to fill SS4 Application form CORRECTLY. I have seen people do messy stuff with their application, so my recommendation is to hire a professional.

As for the call, of course you do not need to call. IRS will mail/fax original letter to your mailing address indiciated on the SS4 form. Calling them can get you the number a few days faster over the phone, but you will still have to wait for the original confirmation to arrive to your address.
It's not that difficult, I used this guide when I started my LLC time ago How to Apply for EIN (for your LLC) without an SSN or ITIN | LLC University®

Related to the conversation before... I'm a native Spanish speaker and I called yesterday that number and they said what I already thought: Foreign owned LLC's (an LLC stabled in the US by a non resident/citizen) can only get an EIN by fax or mail
 

sdip

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It's not that difficult, I used this guide when I started my LLC time ago How to Apply for EIN (for your LLC) without an SSN or ITIN | LLC University®

Related to the conversation before... I'm a native Spanish speaker and I called yesterday that number and they said what I already thought: Foreign owned LLC's (an LLC stabled in the US by a non resident/citizen) can only get an EIN by fax or mail
then I was lucky, because they gave it to me without problems
 

sdip

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Where was your company incorporated? In which State/Country was Articles of Organization filed?
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New mexico
 

tacokai

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The IRS, to fill 5472 you need to have an EIN (I guess that's the main reason to have it)
okay make sense. But since you are able to setup a company in the USA as an foreigner then it should be possible to file accounts without the EIN or it should be something like the registration number you get automatically with the company registration?

Is it by the way the same for all states Delaware, Wyoming and New Mexico that the EIN is required?
 

eadeveloper

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okay make sense. But since you are able to setup a company in the USA as an foreigner then it should be possible to file accounts without the EIN or it should be something like the registration number you get automatically with the company registration?

Is it by the way the same for all states Delaware, Wyoming and New Mexico that the EIN is required?

Without an EIN you can't file form 5472 and that's a requirement for all foreign owned LLCs (without matter in which state they were formed).
 
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