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can you tell me which school offers the Muai Thai Visa? im interested.
I have to apply for an education visa in April, one of the best I've found is about 50000 baht per year = 1300usd

Off the top of my head, Fairtex (but more expensive), comes to mind. Google 'Muai Thai gym' and look for smaller ones as they offer cheaper prices, my mate did one for 650 a few months back in Jomtien.

so there is fake schools to just get a study visa for cheap in vietnam like in thailand, cool

Not always, in some of them you can actually go to class and learn some manners.
 
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Thank you! I learned something new today I've never heard before! ;)
I stole that quote from a documentary, but sadly dont remember its name. Was smth about southeast asia, for obvious reasons.
Disclaimer: The ones I have been to over the decades are NOT cheap! I am NOT an expert on Thailand AT ALL! I started going to simply learn ALL the Muay Thai SWEEPS! That's it. My focus in Thailand was the SWEEP!

(1) Master Toddy Muay Thai. The full package for a year was about €4,5K over a decade ago. You need to check now.
(2) KohFight. Nice retreat. It was a bit more expensive than #1, but I can't remember.
(3) Bangtao Muay Thai. This was on the beach. I loved it. Also, not cheap, but I really can't remember the price now.

There are others, but these are the ones I remember the most at the moment.


Note: It's ONLY for Muay Thai regardless of what they are trying to "upsell" you.
If you want to learn Jiu-Jitsu, train in Brazil.
If you want to learn how to box, train in the USA.
If you want to learn Kung Fu, train in China.
Etc. etc.

Good luck!
 
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I don't recommend to use the Ed Visa in Thailand. There was a chinese mafia abusing this visa back in 2022 and now the people on Ed visa are on the radar every time they try to enter to the country or extend the visa. It happens the same with the volunteer visa.

With this money, maybe you can take a look at India or Sri Lanka.
It’s the same with Elite these days… they do a full spectrum scan (Interpol) when you do the annual renewal.

Should add my wife’s uncle is second in command for a provincial division - retiring in the next few years.

Remarked recently - to her - that he was intending to retire last year because it was becoming dangerous as a “clean” person under the then Prayut top down Government - bare in mind when they came in corruption all but ceased for most things - but gradually became dirty - anyway said he decided to continue for a few more years because the bad are being weeded out by that enabled a lot of the dodgy stuff - and meant you could be forced into a position of observing something and taking a bullet for fear you’d report/arrest the individuals (Police/Gov).

So from that perspective I took a lot of clampdowns are ahead.
 
It’s the same with Elite these days… they do a full spectrum scan (Interpol) when you do the annual renewal.

Should add my wife’s uncle is second in command for a provincial division - retiring in the next few years.

Remarked recently - to her - that he was intending to retire last year because it was becoming dangerous as a “clean” person under the then Prayut top down Government - bare in mind when they came in corruption all but ceased for most things - but gradually became dirty - anyway said he decided to continue for a few more years because the bad are being weeded out by that enabled a lot of the dodgy stuff - and meant you could be forced into a position of observing something and taking a bullet for fear you’d report/arrest the individuals (Police/Gov).

So from that perspective I took a lot of clampdowns are ahead.
I didn't know Elite did an annual check during renewal. To avoid it, one could leave Thailand once a year without renewing the visa inside the country.

When applying for the Elite Visa, they thoroughly check your history for overstays, volunteer visas, or education visas. If you have any of these, your visa application gets rejected.

But, with the new tax rules and higher prices for the Thailand Privilege, I think the program might struggle, unless a lot of people from China join in.
 
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I didn't know Elite did an annual check during renewal. To avoid it, one could leave Thailand once a year without renewing the visa inside the country.

When applying for the Elite Visa, they thoroughly check your history for overstays, volunteer visas, or education visas. If you have any of these, your visa application gets rejected.

But, with the new tax rules and higher prices for the Thailand Privilege, I think the program might struggle, unless a lot of people from China join in.
It doesn't get rejected if you used education visas, first hand experience.
 
I didn't know Elite did an annual check during renewal. To avoid it, one could leave Thailand once a year without renewing the visa inside the country.

When applying for the Elite Visa, they thoroughly check your history for overstays, volunteer visas, or education visas. If you have any of these, your visa application gets rejected.

But, with the new tax rules and higher prices for the Thailand Privilege, I think the program might struggle, unless a lot of people from China join in.
Correct you don't need to leave the country, and they carry out a Interpol check when renewing the visa at immigration (they scan the Immigration Computer connected to the mainframe in Bangkok which has access to Interpol etc).

But, with the new tax rules and higher prices for the Thailand Privilege, I think the program might struggle, unless a lot of people from China join in.
We already decided not to renew on expiry, will spend more time in HK, Switzerland etc.
 
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the next 4/5 years without having to do border runs all the time,
I think doing border runs are not a bad choice for you. The obvious alternatives are:
  • education / business visa for 1 year, renew it every time. Usually they can be arranged easily and there is no real education going on
  • golden visa for 5-10 years, however e.g. the rules for Thailand changed recently and it became more expensive
  • overstaying and risking staying in the country illegally (I know many Russians do it now in SE Asia to avoid the war) - here it really depends on many factors and the consequences could vary wildly from paying a small fine at the airport to being randomly arrested on the street and put into a dirty prison for many months
The border controls can be strict, some countries have a restrictions on how many times you can arrive by land (unlimited arrivals via air, maximum number of arrivals per year via land). The most lawless and least controlled region right now is probably the border between Myanmar and China (and Laos) due to the civil war.

Some people also mentioned Latin America - that is definitely more relaxed in terms of border controls, many people cross e.g. the border between Brazil and Paraguay with no checks and no passports.
 
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I thought it still worked like in banana republics that no one checked and if you got caught, a few hundred dollars could let you get away with a smile!
 
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I thought it still worked like in banana republics that no one checked and if you got caught, a few hundred dollars could let you get away with a smile!
Banana Republic Governments have gotten wise to this and realized that their border agents were making cake so the government (read politicians) have codified the penalty. In Paraguay, for example, it is a bit less than CHF 75. Also, it has to be paid in Guarani, the local currency, in CASH. ;)


Source: Embajada de la República del Paraguay en Canadá :: Requerimientos Migratorios de Ingreso y Salida del Paraguay.

PS. Many years ago (pre-2010) it was FREE, but later (not sure when) it became 4 CHF but kept doubling as time went by. Now, they're at CHF 75. :rolleyes:
 
I thought it still worked like in banana republics that no one checked and if you got caught, a few hundred dollars could let you get away with a smile!
Nah, Thailand incorporated Chinese Surveillance like apparatus, then hooked into the Western system...

Some of 'our' former staff work for the Gov now and were employed in research into automated intelligence gathering (various) whilst working in our division there, so i have an idea whats been pushed out on top of the Chinese systems incorporated in 2018/19.

Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines and in some cases Indonesia are still haunts for crims... otherwise South America...

Thailand ain't the place to go... as they like to set examples (routinely) - this is a country that kicked out a Russian Rock Band (wanted to deport to Russia) because the Russian state put a request in (visa revoked - deportation) until Israel stepped forward and said - hey they are also our citizens - send them here.

 
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Nah, Thailand incorporated Chinese Surveillance like apparatus, then hooked into the Western system...

Some of 'our' former staff work for the Gov now and were employed in research into automated intelligence gathering (various) whilst working in our division there, so i have an idea whats been pushed out on top of the Chinese systems incorporated in 2018/19.

Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines and in some cases Indonesia are still haunts for crims... otherwise South America...

Thailand ain't the place to go... as they like to set examples (routinely) - this is a country that kicked out a Russian Rock Band (wanted to deport to Russia) because the Russian state put a request in (visa revoked - deportation) until Israel stepped forward and said - hey they are also our citizens - send them here.

Indeed yeah. Id also add any place in Africa to it, which is operating outside this whole surveillance nonsense, they still have some parts of it but its impact is on the low side ;). But it comes clearly at a cost of convenience and lifestyle, albeit its not as bad as one would commonly assume it to be.

Dont wanna hate overly on Th ailand or judge them harshly bc its a very nice place, but it has a well how to say that best , a "unique cultural twist" concerning foreigners, which is absent in other countries in the same region, so im not surprised the slightest by this.

It is also uniquely in the position of being already nice, a sweet spot of sorts, while not being yet completely infested by all the cancer which infests the west, but as you write regarding surveillance and stuff, it is very well underway of following the same path and there's maybe 10 - 20y left before that surveillance/gov cancer starts to metastasize to a degree ruining the place like its ruining the west today. (Europe was also quite nice with very high quality of living before it got ruined).

The other countries (ex Malaysia, Singapore) are way less developed and more harsh of sorts, so you have still ample of banana republics freedom which comes a clear tradeoff of customer convenience.
 
Hey! I have like $50,000 of crypto and I would like to live in asia for the next 4/5 years without having to do border runs all the time, I will also need to find ways to exchange my crypto for cash.
Could someone with experience please recommend be what would be my best options? either visa wise or to exchange crypto for cash?

Thanks a lot!
50,000$ ain’t gonna go far lol

Well not in a country with internet and financial rails which you’d need for drawing that 50k down
 
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Hey! I have like $50,000 of crypto and I would like to live in asia for the next 4/5 years without having to do border runs all the time, I will also need to find ways to exchange my crypto for cash.
Could someone with experience please recommend be what would be my best options? either visa wise or to exchange crypto for cash?

Thanks a lot!
you don't plan to earn money during the 4 - 5 years in ASIA and where in ASIA do you plan to live ?
 
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50,000$ ain’t gonna go far lol

Well not in a country with internet and financial rails which you’d need for drawing that 50k down
The 50K would be about $833 per month for 5 years, or about $790 after visa costs.

It's still very doable for someone with a slow lifestyle, who is happy to live with half of western comforts in Cambodia, VN or Indonesia, while working on an own project. Of course, only as long as no new scamdemic leads to more inflation and higher prices.

You can get a one bedroom place with TV, A/C, kitchen and fridge for about $150-250 in Cambodia, and if you look at the local market you can even get a similar room
with all of that (but w/o TV) for $40 advertised in the local language. Even in Thailand I still see A/C studios for locals for THB 1700 on the outskirts of the city (Chiang Rai for example, or pretty much everywhere in Isaan), and they don't mind a farang living there either.
Though it might be not the best choice for security, having a crappy lock on a door and being surrounded by penny-pinching students or construction workers, leaving the apartment for a few days while going for a trip might have some 'side effects' if you wear too expensive clothes or look wealthy,

But it depends on lifestyle and age, I was happy living on $3 / day, having fun with girls, and sleeping in a hammock next to the beach for free when I was 20.
Nowadays, the world is different and me too, as well as my needs and wants. Still, for some young people, who prefer unique experiences to eating overpriced western food, the mentioned sum could be sufficient, as long as they don't get in any moto accidents, or get robbed by some opportunistic girls, and prefer to work on their projects or just chill and take it slow.
 

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