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UAE vs Cyprus for crypto trading company

For a crypto trader Cyprus is a good option as a crypto-to-crypto swap is not a tax event; if a trader has to pay 9% tax for each profitable swap than Dubai is not a great option.
That I don't know, but do I get taxed for trading crypto in Dubai ? I mean if I do it from a personal Binance or Kraken account?
 
There have already been a lot of threads about Cyprus vs. UAE, and Cyprus isn’t crypto-friendly yet. According to some of the consultants we have here on the forum, they’re only just starting to adapt to it now. So, UAE is probably the better choice.
 
That I don't know, but do I get taxed for trading crypto in Dubai ? I mean if I do it from a personal Binance or Kraken account?
Not sure, but it seems it depends on the amounts involved and the frequency of trades; something like the badges of trade.
Binance or Kraken might report your account to the tax authority.
Talk to a tax expert to be sure.

There have already been a lot of threads about Cyprus vs. UAE, and Cyprus isn’t crypto-friendly yet. According to some of the consultants we have here on the forum, they’re only just starting to adapt to it now. So, UAE is probably the better choice.
Only banks are not crypto-friendly in Cyprus. Reading on this forum there's no issue in opening a company and trading crypto, just bank abroad.
 
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Only banks are not crypto-friendly in Cyprus. Reading on this forum there's no issue in opening a company and trading crypto, just bank abroad.
yeah that could possibly work. Wise does not open accounts for Cyprus companies yet, so it's required to find alternatives for CY companies.
 
If Cyprus banks don't accept crypto as it is right now. Why not setup your business in the UAE / Dubai where you get company and bank account in the country and avoid lot's of troubles?
 
Not sure, but it seems it depends on the amounts involved and the frequency of trades; something like the badges of trade.
Binance or Kraken might report your account to the tax authority.
Talk to a tax expert to be sure.
Not so far, kraken does not since Binance is US government owned now (joking) they will report you for sure.
 
Not so far, kraken does not since Binance is US government owned now (joking) they will report you for sure.
I would just pay the 9% tax bill on crypto-trading activity without relying on the fact they don't report your account to the UAE tax authority.
It's very easy for a CEX to provide the amount of tax a trader has to pay if they are requested by the authorities.
 
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I would just pay the 9% tax bill on crypto-trading activity without relying on the fact they don't report your account to the UAE tax authority.
It's very easy for a CEX to provide the amount of tax a trader has to pay if they are requested by the authorities.
But if you are a trader who does not have a company would you still pay the 9% which is a corporate tax?
 
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I just heard something very weird online from a youtube channel which claims to make tax and residency videos fro Cyprus and help people relocate there: "Loses from trades are not tax deductable. Meaning if you lose money from a trade you can't counter that with profits from another one":

I.e. as far as I understand: if I have 5 trades, 4 lose 1 eur, 1 win 4 eur and I am break even: I need to pay tax on the winning trade +4 eur, even though I didn't make any money.

This sounds absolutely crazy and unbelievable to me and I can't believe any trader who follows this can keep being profitable in the long run.

Can someone confirm where does this information originates and if it's misunderstanding?
 
I just heard something very weird online from a youtube channel which claims to make tax and residency videos fro Cyprus and help people relocate there: "Loses from trades are not tax deductable. Meaning if you lose money from a trade you can't counter that with profits from another one":

I.e. as far as I understand: if I have 5 trades, 4 lose 1 eur, 1 win 4 eur and I am break even: I need to pay tax on the winning trade +4 eur, even though I didn't make any money.

This sounds absolutely crazy and unbelievable to me and I can't believe any trader who follows this can keep being profitable in the long run.

Can someone confirm where does this information originates and if it's misunderstanding?
As a general note, this is a video from a digital nomad living in Cyprus, he makes video giving advice without having the required background. For any questions you have always consult with a licensed lawyer or auditor in Cyprus.
 
Yeah he still pushing people to Cyprus as he got his consulting biz set up there... but guess what, he's moving all his companies and businesses to Dubai... he just got his residency and his companies there as the video below shows ;)
While he's continuing to set his paying customers in Cyprus... "till he'll be ready to do the same in UAE, now that he's got the first hand experience of getting the residency and setting a company there" :rolleyes:
(one get the residency, set a company and now he's an expert in the field :pclow#¤% )


some gems from that video:
"taking my money out of EU"
"i'll just use my cypriot company as payment agent nothing else"
"hope cyprus will get one day like dubai"
"I said cyprus was better than UAE but was marketing gimmick, you don't want to always believe what you see online" is the new "do what i say not what i do" smi(&%
"people say horrible things about EU but I like it" and at the same time "I want my plan B so I can shuffle all the money out of EU" rof/%
 
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I just heard something very weird online from a youtube channel which claims to make tax and residency videos fro Cyprus and help people relocate there: "Loses from trades are not tax deductable. Meaning if you lose money from a trade you can't counter that with profits from another one":

I.e. as far as I understand: if I have 5 trades, 4 lose 1 eur, 1 win 4 eur and I am break even: I need to pay tax on the winning trade +4 eur, even though I didn't make any money.

This sounds absolutely crazy and unbelievable to me and I can't believe any trader who follows this can keep being profitable in the long run.

Can someone confirm where does this information originates and if it's misunderstanding?
I believe we don't care much about the guy himself
After a quick due diligence you'll directly see if corporate capital losses from trading can be deductable and be carried forward
Other threads discuss the natural person case which isn't interesting tax wise aside stocks
 
So is this true or not?

And if not, what is the original source of this misnformation coming from?

It can't be out of thin air, rather a misinterpration of some rule which I am yet to find.
It’s pretty obvious what these damn influencers are up to. They’re pushing a country because they’re either sponsored in some way, or, like in this case, they run a consultancy firm that conveniently helps people set up personally and professionally in places like Cyprus, Dubai, or Montenegro, which are all trendy hotspots among these young influencers.

The problem is, most of them have absolutely no clue what they’re doing.

They’re young, naïve, and it’s ultimately going to affect all the other young and naïve people who use their so called services.

So yes, a lot of this hype really can come out of thin air, and most of the time, that’s exactly what happens.
 
It’s pretty obvious what these damn influencers are up to. They’re pushing a country because they’re either sponsored in some way, or, like in this case, they run a consultancy firm that conveniently helps people set up personally and professionally in places like Cyprus, Dubai, or Montenegro, which are all trendy hotspots among these young influencers.

The problem is, most of them have absolutely no clue what they’re doing.

They’re young, naïve, and it’s ultimately going to affect all the other young and naïve people who use their so called services.

So yes, a lot of this hype really can come out of thin air, and most of the time, that’s exactly what happens.
Your reply doesn't make sense.

It's exactly the opposite because if indeed untrue this tax claim is against his business interest.

In this case it can be his stupidity but out of thin air fabricating anti-marketing claims that go against him makes zero sense.