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Hello guys,
I have seen that recently no one mentions Malta on this forum anymore, when in my opinion it remains a very popular destination especially for those who want to stay in Europe.

I have also heard that recently, companies ( with the right structure) can even pay 5% directly, instead of paying 35% and then having the 30% (6/7) refund on the Foreign Holding.

Maybe it's because is hard to open a bank account? I spoke to a friend there, and he told me that there are local EMIs (also quite famous and present for many years) that open without problems within a few days and after obtained residence, also Physical local banks will accept us too.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
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The reason why nobody is mention it - is because what you have heard is not true.

Already in 2017 it was a nightmare to open local Business Bank Accounts in Malta - add on this the increasing international pressure on Tax Heavens, Satabank failure and the FATF Grey Listing.

If somebody is telling you that a local EMI is opening you within a few days a bank account is basically a straight lie - even with the local EMI's you are looking on Months of Account Opening - Finductive even has tightened the Application Process since the FATF Grey Listing + Revolut and Wise are not opening any longer for Malta - since almost 2 years they just put you on a forever wait-list.

Add on this Malta is a small island not everyone is willing to spend months there, still you have a lot of bureaucracy and the badest possible reputation due to all the shady stuff that were going on at least in the past with casinos, bank failures and money laundering scandals.

Most people decide because of this to stick to Cyprus - it's still the usual EU bureaucracy hassle - but at least you get some banking done with Bank of Cyprus even when it take months.
 
You can't always expect people to reply to a topic. As @Fred said already, something of what you have heard is not true, you may pay attention to his words.
 
The reason why nobody is mention it - is because what you have heard is not true.

Already in 2017 it was a nightmare to open local Business Bank Accounts in Malta - add on this the increasing international pressure on Tax Heavens, Satabank failure and the FATF Grey Listing.

If somebody is telling you that a local EMI is opening you within a few days a bank account is basically a straight lie - even with the local EMI's you are looking on Months of Account Opening - Finductive even has tightened the Application Process since the FATF Grey Listing + Revolut and Wise are not opening any longer for Malta - since almost 2 years they just put you on a forever wait-list.

Add on this Malta is a small island not everyone is willing to spend months there, still you have a lot of bureaucracy and the badest possible reputation due to all the shady stuff that were going on at least in the past with casinos, bank failures and money laundering scandals.

Most people decide because of this to stick to Cyprus - it's still the usual EU bureaucracy hassle - but at least you get some banking done with Bank of Cyprus even when it take months.

I'm not talking because I heard it from "someone randomly" , but simply because a person close to me opened an account with a local EMI in a few days (Papaya) ... and just to be clear, not i am doing no advertising as i am not even Maltese.

I was just asking because apart from the bank ... which can be more or less complicated ... but if you are stubborn, you can open it, in my opinion it is an excellent compromise for those who want to stay in Europe: 5% taxation, 0% dividends, flights to practically every European country, 300 days of sunshine , go to the beach 6 months a year, English as the main language.

I have seen people recommending crazy EU countries, where the standard of living is ridiculous to don't talk about climate... but I don't want to be severe, this depends on the tastes of each person.

and @Fred , I know that you do your job and obviously try to bring people to Dubai....but... nobody compared Malta to Dubai, the post in fact wanted to highlight Malta among the various possibilities in Eu and not extra-EU where there are significantly better countries
 
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I'm not talking because I heard it from "someone randomly" , but simply because a person close to me opened an account with a local EMI in a few days (Papaya) ... and just to be clear, not i am doing no advertising as i am not even Maltese.

I was just asking because apart from the bank ... which can be more or less complicated ... but if you are stubborn, you can open it, in my opinion it is an excellent compromise for those who want to stay in Europe: 5% taxation, 0% dividends, flights to practically every European country, 300 days of sunshine , go to the beach 6 months a year, English as the main language.

I have seen people recommending crazy EU countries, where the standard of living is ridiculous to don't talk about climate... but I don't want to be severe, this depends on the tastes of each person.

and @Fred , I know that you do your job and obviously try to bring people to Dubai....but... nobody compared Malta to Dubai, the post in fact wanted to highlight Malta among the various possibilities in Eu and not extra-EU where there are significantly better countries
@Brillo - Papaya is a Personal Acount - you can get a Personal Account with every major EMI. The difficult part is the Business Bank Account - that you obviously need.

The problem here is that it's even crazy hard to get an EMI for a Malta based company - especially now after the FATF grey listing. From banking technically point of view you are on the stage together with Mauritius etc. that is banking still Seychelles companies.

I can comment on Malta very well as it was my first destination when I was leaving Germany - already years back I ended up getting only banking with Satabank that went bust later on - search the forum for.

You missed the whole point of my post - if you are talking about options within the EU - Dubai and the UAE is out of question - I try to refer you into the Cyprus direction if you want to stay for every price in the EU - as I know how bad the bank situation is on Malta.

By the way there are not that many EMI's on Malta:

PayMix (rebranded)
Paytah
FInductive

About Paytah:

As you can see - the problems I'm referring to are still very valid.

Everybody needs to make own experience and learnings but I guess the point of looking inot a forum is to consult with users that already paid the learning money so that you don't have to.

If you still want to go ahead - make sure you go with a top notch provider that has strong relationships with at least one bank that isn't that much in the mainstream. 5 years back a hidden secret was Sparkasse Malta - if you were coming with a strong background and a Boutique Lawyer you paid 20-30k EUR for. This is already a half decade back and already back in the days nobody was bothering with Malta below 250k/EUR net profit a year due to the enourmous running costs and prestige you have to put on your case that a bank is even willing to talk with you.

@WIE7 is a client of us with a Malta operation as well - maybe he can give you his 2 cents as well.
 
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Thank you for the information @Fred ... in any case it seems strange to me that Papaya does not provide business accounts, it was the same agent who recommended it to me (and I asked for business one) and to my friend as he has close relationships with the their CEO (atleast this is what he said). Anyway you're right, my friend has Personal papaya, so I don't have any experience with Papaya business

However this topic comes from the frustration of a change of life in the last few months that has brought me a repressed anger ...
I moved 4 months ago to Romania where there was a lot of good talk also on this forum, and after only 4 months, I want to leave. It was a radical change in my lifestyle, and the thing that disappointed me most, is the fact that despite being in perhaps the most international area of Romania (Bucuresti - Pipera) I have strong problems communicating with people in English and it's making my life hell.
So... I was thinking of Malta just to return to a lifestyle more similar to the one I like, without giving up the benefits of a ridiculous taxation
 
Thank you for the information @Fred ... in any case it seems strange to me that Papaya does not provide business accounts, it was the same agent who recommended it to me (and I asked for business one) and to my friend as he has close relationships with the their CEO (atleast this is what he said). Anyway you're right, my friend has Personal papaya, so I don't have any experience with Papaya business

However this topic comes from the frustration of a change of life in the last few months that has brought me a repressed anger ...
I moved 4 months ago to Romania where there was a lot of good talk also on this forum, and after only 4 months, I want to leave. It was a radical change in my lifestyle, and the thing that disappointed me most, is the fact that despite being in perhaps the most international area of Romania (Bucuresti - Pipera) I have strong problems communicating with people in English and it's making my life hell.
So... I was thinking of Malta just to return to a lifestyle more similar to the one I like, without giving up the benefits of a ridiculous taxation
Yes it's not easy to find something that fits you on business and personal level.

The thing within EU is that as soon as you have some tax advantage you have the feeling of living on a rock.

Best you live for a few weeks in each for you interesting jurisdiction.

But don't think that the Maltese are more open and welcome - they are very close within there families and most of the time don't want to understand you even if they do understand you very well.

If you stick to Malta it will be for sure a crazy hard time getting some decent reliable retail bank with a classic bank.
 
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@Fred is completely right about the banking situation, its practically impossible to open an account with the local banks. The alternatives are EMI's, which are also hard to open an account with (which is a good thing). Like Fred said there are not many on Malta but you can also opt for a EMI outside of Malta obviously, but most are not open for Maltese companies anymore(Like Revolut and Wise). But if you have a legitimate business and have some decent turnover you will eventually be able to open an account with a EMI, don't worry about that, but it will take a long time. I incorporated here 3 months ago and so far have been accepted by 1 EMI outside of Malta, the applications I have with Maltese EMI's are taking a lot longer and they do a lot more due diligence, I don't even bother trying to open a bank account with the local banks because I have spoken many people that have been here for a long time and tell me it's a waste of time, even for Maltese citizens with local business it can be a pain in the a*s. Maybe if you can manage to build up a relationship with a local bank here you can open business account but that would involve moving your assets to their bank and taking loans from them etc. The other alternative is to stick with crypto if that is a option with your business model.

The reason why a lot of people pick other countries over Malta is because the alternatives are usually better.

For example you need to operate 2 companies to achieve the 5% (preferably 3 if you want to pay 5% directly), that also means you need to do accounting and reporting for 2/3 companies which will cost a lot more then with just one in for example Cyprus or Bulgaria. It could cost you up to 5-10K a year depending on your situation, this is pretty much the same cost as setting up in Dubai and in Dubai you pay 0% tax in most cases.

The cost of living here is higher then in Cyprus or Bulgaria. The island is also really small which can be a downside (there is a lot going on and to do for a island this size though), it is really congested all of the Island pretty much, there is no quite spot on Malta, everywhere there are people, every piece of the island has been adjusted by human hands, there is pretty much no nature. So if you are looking for a quite place Malta is not for you, Gozo is more quite though.

Everything is really bureaucratic and slow, even a lot the private business lack good service here like car dealerships, probably because of a lack of competition.


There are a lot of pro's as well obviously.

There are direct flights to pretty much all big cities in Europe, you can also leave the island by car (1.5 hours to Sicily).

Climate is pretty much the best you will find in Europe, it can get pretty hot in July and August but you can be out of the country in July and August if you are not a fan of hot weather.

It has the lowest tax rate you will find in the EU, and a great non-dom program.

The Local Maltese people are very friendly and welcoming and everyone speaks English (its a official language)

Most services are available on Malta, cheap and fast internet, and everything is nearby.

Malta isn't a bad option but it all depends on your personal situation, and that is why a lot of people pick other countries over Malta. But if you make a nice profit every year that outweighs the downside if the high cost of maintaining the companies and the higher cost of living it is a really good option.
 
@Fred is completely right about the banking situation, its practically impossible to open an account with the local banks. The alternatives are EMI's, which are also hard to open an account with (which is a good thing). Like Fred said there are not many on Malta but you can also opt for a EMI outside of Malta obviously, but most are not open for Maltese companies anymore(Like Revolut and Wise). But if you have a legitimate business and have some decent turnover you will eventually be able to open an account with a EMI, don't worry about that, but it will take a long time. I incorporated here 3 months ago and so far have been accepted by 1 EMI outside of Malta, the applications I have with Maltese EMI's are taking a lot longer and they do a lot more due diligence, I don't even bother trying to open a bank account with the local banks because I have spoken many people that have been here for a long time and tell me it's a waste of time, even for Maltese citizens with local business it can be a pain in the a*s. Maybe if you can manage to build up a relationship with a local bank here you can open business account but that would involve moving your assets to their bank and taking loans from them etc. The other alternative is to stick with crypto if that is a option with your business model.

The reason why a lot of people pick other countries over Malta is because the alternatives are usually better.

For example you need to operate 2 companies to achieve the 5% (preferably 3 if you want to pay 5% directly), that also means you need to do accounting and reporting for 2/3 companies which will cost a lot more then with just one in for example Cyprus or Bulgaria. It could cost you up to 5-10K a year depending on your situation, this is pretty much the same cost as setting up in Dubai and in Dubai you pay 0% tax in most cases.

The cost of living here is higher then in Cyprus or Bulgaria. The island is also really small which can be a downside (there is a lot going on and to do for a island this size though), it is really congested all of the Island pretty much, there is no quite spot on Malta, everywhere there are people, every piece of the island has been adjusted by human hands, there is pretty much no nature. So if you are looking for a quite place Malta is not for you, Gozo is more quite though.

Everything is really bureaucratic and slow, even a lot the private business lack good service here like car dealerships, probably because of a lack of competition.


There are a lot of pro's as well obviously.

There are direct flights to pretty much all big cities in Europe, you can also leave the island by car (1.5 hours to Sicily).

Climate is pretty much the best you will find in Europe, it can get pretty hot in July and August but you can be out of the country in July and August if you are not a fan of hot weather.

It has the lowest tax rate you will find in the EU, and a great non-dom program.

The Local Maltese people are very friendly and welcoming and everyone speaks English (its a official language)

Most services are available on Malta, cheap and fast internet, and everything is nearby.

Malta isn't a bad option but it all depends on your personal situation, and that is why a lot of people pick other countries over Malta. But if you make a nice profit every year that outweighs the downside if the high cost of maintaining the companies and the higher cost of living it is a really good option.

Thank you very much @WIE7 for sharing your Maltese experience with us. I have only one question, are you resident in Malta?Because I don't know if I mentioned it, but that was my intention, and I believe that having the residence can also be useful to open a local account that is physical or EMI. Surely as you mentioned it is a thorn in the side, but being a resident in all respects and having a clear and solid business is it really that impossible?

My Income is under one milion.. I don't know with income numbers you were referring to, but I believe that after Christmas if my current situation does not change, I will give it a try.

Dubai is very attractive, definitely the best choice for my situation ... but I'm not ready to take this step yet due to the distance from my main country but I know I'll regret it
 
Thank you very much @WIE7 for sharing your Maltese experience with us. I have only one question, are you resident in Malta?Because I don't know if I mentioned it, but that was my intention, and I believe that having the residence can also be useful to open a local account that is physical or EMI. Surely as you mentioned it is a thorn in the side, but being a resident in all respects and having a clear and solid business is it really that impossible?

My Income is under one milion.. I don't know with income numbers you were referring to, but I believe that after Christmas if my current situation does not change, I will give it a try.

Dubai is very attractive, definitely the best choice for my situation ... but I'm not ready to take this step yet due to the distance from my main country but I know I'll regret it
Yeah I am a resident.

I mean if you are making 100K year and you have to maintain companies that could cost 10K a year I don't think Malta is such a viable option, also that the cost of living is pretty high here. In that case Cyprus would be a better option 20K tax free salary, lower cost of living and you only have to maintain one company, but I suggest you to run your own calculation.
 
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Malta is dirty, in every possible meaning of the word smi(&%
(that doesn't mean that's not doable, but these days there are much better solutions than jail yourself in a dirty island...)
Also about the weather... Canary Islands have the best weather in EU, with southern Spain close second.
Malta is HOT in summer, "cold" in winter as houses are shitty and not insulated. And mold.
 
Malta is dirty, in every possible meaning of the word smi(&%
(that doesn't mean that's not doable, but these days there are much better solutions than jail yourself in a dirty island...)
Also about the weather... Canary Islands have the best weather in EU, with southern Spain close second.
Malta is HOT in summer, "cold" in winter as houses are shitty and not insulated. And mold.
What are these solutions that you feel you can recommend to me?
 
, is the fact that despite being in perhaps the most international area of Romania (Bucuresti - Pipera) I have strong problems communicating with people in English and it's making my life hell.

Yes no amount of tax savings is worth this frustration. It's when you run into real problems that the language barrier is magnified. I had this problem before. If Malta works for your lifestyle needs move there and don't look back. Just be aware of its limitations being a grey listed island.
 
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A lot of good replies here.

I fully agree with you that Malta is a nice and safe place to live in. Good food, connections to everywhere in europe, good weather. Miles better than a lot of other Eu countries mentioned, as you said. Obviously it's a small island, but a lot of people spend the majority of their time living in a similar foot-print in larger cities. Planes are your friend :)

The problem with Malta is two fold: i). banking, and ii). size/strength. The problem with banking in Malta is correspondent banks. Due to increased global regulations banks have been undergoing a de-risking process for a few years now - relationships with limited profitability are on the chopping block as they are not worth the risk (google BOV correspondent banks). So banks in Malta are always walking on egg shells, to protect their relationships with correspondent banks which in turn makes DD a nightmare. Also, in some areas like crypto for example, even though correspondent banks might offer their own crypto clients services, Maltese ones cannot and don't touch it - doesn't matter if you're 100% legit.

Another factor is this FAFT greylisting. I personally believe this was done as Malta is a small country that is (or has become) easy to bully and make an example of - so more political than anything else. Mention a money laundering case in Malta and you can mention one 1-3 order of magnitude bigger in another EU country. There was a nice quote which went something like - more money in laundered in the city of london from 9-12, then has ever been laundered in Malta in 10 years. They pissed off 2-3 powerhouse countries, who have very high moral horses, and got whacked unfortunately. However, at the end of the day the reasons don't matter - they are greylisted and this is a risk you have to consider. Malta will not get off the greylist before 2023.

There are also other risks: the EU going nuts in general; the push for EU tax harmonisation etc.. But the biggest one is that due to greylisting Malta is currently desperate to prosecute people regarding money laundering - no matter how petty. Every court case has now become labeled "money laundering", this of course to appease the FAFT overlords. They need to get enforcement numbers up (prosecutions, fines etc..) to get off the greylist. Whether this is an environment you want to live under is up to you.
 
Yeah I am a resident.

I mean if you are making 100K year and you have to maintain companies that could cost 10K a year I don't think Malta is such a viable option, also that the cost of living is pretty high here. In that case Cyprus would be a better option 20K tax free salary, lower cost of living and you only have to maintain one company, but I suggest you to run your own calculation.
Tax free here means still 25% contributions afaik, and FWIW
 
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A lot of good replies here.

I fully agree with you that Malta is a nice and safe place to live in. Good food, connections to everywhere in europe, good weather. Miles better than a lot of other Eu countries mentioned, as you said. Obviously it's a small island, but a lot of people spend the majority of their time living in a similar foot-print in larger cities. Planes are your friend :)

The problem with Malta is two fold: i). banking, and ii). size/strength. The problem with banking in Malta is correspondent banks. Due to increased global regulations banks have been undergoing a de-risking process for a few years now - relationships with limited profitability are on the chopping block as they are not worth the risk (google BOV correspondent banks). So banks in Malta are always walking on egg shells, to protect their relationships with correspondent banks which in turn makes DD a nightmare. Also, in some areas like crypto for example, even though correspondent banks might offer their own crypto clients services, Maltese ones cannot and don't touch it - doesn't matter if you're 100% legit.

Another factor is this FAFT greylisting. I personally believe this was done as Malta is a small country that is (or has become) easy to bully and make an example of - so more political than anything else. Mention a money laundering case in Malta and you can mention one 1-3 order of magnitude bigger in another EU country. There was a nice quote which went something like - more money in laundered in the city of london from 9-12, then has ever been laundered in Malta in 10 years. They pissed off 2-3 powerhouse countries, who have very high moral horses, and got whacked unfortunately. However, at the end of the day the reasons don't matter - they are greylisted and this is a risk you have to consider. Malta will not get off the greylist before 2023.

There are also other risks: the EU going nuts in general; the push for EU tax harmonisation etc.. But the biggest one is that due to greylisting Malta is currently desperate to prosecute people regarding money laundering - no matter how petty. Every court case has now become labeled "money laundering", this of course to appease the FAFT overlords. They need to get enforcement numbers up (prosecutions, fines etc..) to get off the greylist. Whether this is an environment you want to live under is up to you.

Thank you very much, really appreciate your reply. As mentioned in the answers above ... I don't see many alternatives in Malta for the lifestyle I like, indeed none. I chose Romania only for fiscal reasons, and I realized that it makes no sense to make a choice of this type. In any case, I want to reiterate that my business is healthy, nothing dark or to be hidden, and to answer your last point ... I chose to expatriate 4 months ago, just to avoid tax evasion in fact I am against tax evasion at all....
Tax free here means still 25% contributions afaik, and FWIW

What country are you talking about?
 
Thank you very much, really appreciate your reply. As mentioned in the answers above ... I don't see many alternatives in Malta for the lifestyle I like, indeed none. I chose Romania only for fiscal reasons, and I realized that it makes no sense to make a choice of this type. In any case, I want to reiterate that my business is healthy, nothing dark or to be hidden, and to answer your last point ... I chose to expatriate 4 months ago, just to avoid tax evasion in fact I am against tax evasion at all....
Yes agreed. I wasn’t assuming anything dark btw, my point was that even if you have everything in order and are 100% legit, the DD is still impossible in some areas.

I gave crypto as an example area that you can work in freely in other EU countries, the USA (for now), the UK, but which in Malta is near impossible unless you happen to have a good foreign banking setup and can get your money in the country to pay your taxes.

Anyways, please let us know how you get on/if you make the move.
 
. They need to get enforcement numbers up (prosecutions, fines etc..) to get off the greylist.
That is why probably I see in local news ow: we het one Turkish traveler with 12k Euro from time to time - they use dogs to detect cash XD...
From time to time they fine local Buisness for something like 100k Euro transaction etc because low AML .
Looks like Malta is hunting but they do that on local field, but in reality as I see not much now is going there.
If you have cash and want put it into bank you have to have job payslip etc.

Malta is only country in EU where I see 10-20 people in que to bank... XD they still use cheques.

Most funny is that tax evasion is on highest "government sits" but noone ever got busted as they write ( like anywhere in the world was that different) ,
it is so funny when they jump on people who have like 10500 Euro in cash and write about it with such pride that they do something.

I gave crypto as an example area that you can work in freely in other EU countries
I have talk with accountant in Malta in last days he warned me that probably would never be able to meet bank documentation requirements for crypto business or personal account here.
This is not worth hassle.
Plus is that if you have company outside and bank then they don't go after you - there is no reason for them (no tax).