Mentor Group
Offshore Company Formation and Management Services
Turner Little - Company Formation Agents & Banking Intermediaries.Chat to a member of our sales team.

China, Bitcoin and a New Era

Granwasa

Active Member
Good morning fellow members,
Allow me to underline how the below opinion is strictly personal.
Any different idea is more than welcome.

Let's be synthetic.
Bitcoin has always been broadcasted as a freedom ship away from banks and governments' tyranny.
However, history teaches us that the system has never airdropped freedom. When it seems it does, it's most likely a troy horse.

My thoughts have been always focused on China, as the Bitcoin's creator.
They started planting seeds for global dominance decades ago. With the USA dying, the only player that could take its place and unify our nations is China.

On which pillars does our world stand on? Military, Economy and Currency.
Any country who has global aims must master all of them.
Let's take a look at the USA: first military power, satellites nations like EU or Middle East and the Dollar, the world most used currency.
China has already developed two pillars, a strong military and a great economy, with real colonies all around the globe.

The missing pillar? A global currency.

Bitcoin fits perfectly in a Chinese world's vision.
Anarchism and outsider are paralyzed, unlike with cash. Total surveillance on global finance.
All transfers are public, every coin leaves a trace and BTC mixers are useless.
What separate us from privacy oblivion? CRS.
Currently, more than 80% of the cryptocurrencies are hold on exchanges. When CRS will be applied, everything will be public. All your spending habits and transfers: fully traced.
Hiding your coins and identity will a hell of a job.

Bitcoin will be the first global coin for the first global empire.

Also with your own wallets, nothing changes. Every BTC address can be internationally flagged. Meaning that any major exchange will freeze your coins if deposited from such addresses.

Despite being still illegal in China, national BTC farms have always been on the edge of mining. Currently they control over 65% of the hash power. We all know how China works... Who really thinks, that the Gov would have allowed such proliferation, if considered a stability threat?

Now, a purely abstract observation. Satoshi Nakamoto is a Japanese sounding name. Given the historical sourness between the two countries, what better way to mislead from the true creator?

Lastly, I am aware of the Monero existence.
However, as said, I don't believe in given freedom. Monero in my view is a Chinese TOR, annually founded the US gov such as NSA. More here...

Get on board now.
The process is still relatively easy.
Create privacy-focused structures on as many exchanges as possible.
Forge financial freedom for your dynasty.

Granwasa.
 
Last edited:

Martin Everson

Offshore Retiree
Mentor Group Gold
Elite Member
Crypto whether its BTC or other in the hands of government is tyranny. You basically through crypto enslave humanity economically in a single sweep if people are forced to adopt it by government.

For those hoping for a blockchain world I would say they are insane if they value freedom. No one knows who created BTC and for me that matters more than how it is used. If I was to guess then it would be some US government agency that put it out there.

P.S The younger TWT, IG, FB, BTC generation have no concept of privacy or freedom anymore. They will happily put on shackles without seeing the dangers.
 

bitman

New member
I would like to hear your thoughts about the last big thing(s) which were created as truly grassroots and not created as part of an "conspiracy" operation (not saying this as an insult, truly curious). It's possible monero/bitcoin were state sponsored creations, but they are both nowhere near perfect (With room for improvement) and quite possibly created by independant minds. Remember, it's very difficult to force creativity at gunpoint....thats what dictator tyrants don't understand. With technology it gets very interesting because it scales so well, so technically it may only take 1 super genius type person (once in a lifetime 200+ IQ type) to break everything eventually......for good or evil perhaps. I think those types of people would be difficult to control and manipulate, creatively speaking in this context.
 
Last edited:
Good morning fellow members,
Allow me to underline how the below opinion is strictly personal.
Any different idea is more than welcome.

Let's be synthetic.
Bitcoin has always been broadcasted as a freedom ship away from banks and governments' tyranny.
However, history teaches us that the system has never airdropped freedom. When it seems it does, it's most likely a troy horse.

My thoughts have been always focused on China, as the Bitcoin's creator.
They started planting seeds for global dominance decades ago. With the USA dying, the only player that could take its place and unify our nations is China.

On which pillars does our world stand on? Military, Economy and Currency.
Any country who has global aims must master all of them.
Let's take a look at the USA: first military power, satellites nations like EU or Middle East and the Dollar, the world most used currency.
China has already developed two pillars, a strong military and a great economy, with real colonies all around the globe.

The missing pillar? A global currency.

Bitcoin fits perfectly in a Chinese world's vision.
Anarchism and outsider are paralyzed, unlike with cash. Total surveillance on global finance.
All transfers are public, every coin leaves a trace and BTC mixers are useless.
What separate us from privacy oblivion? CRS.
Currently, more than 80% of the cryptocurrencies are hold on exchanges. When CRS will be applied, everything will be public. All your spending habits and transfers: fully traced.
Hiding your coins and identity will a hell of a job.

Bitcoin will be the first global coin for the first global empire.

Also with your own wallets, nothing changes. Every BTC address can be internationally flagged. Meaning that any major exchange will freeze your coins if deposited from such addresses.

Despite being still illegal in China, national BTC farms have always been on the edge of mining. Currently they control over 65% of the hash power. We all know how China works... Who really thinks, that the Gov would have allowed such proliferation, if considered a stability threat?

Now, a purely abstract observation. Satoshi Nakamoto is a Japanese sounding name. Given the historical sourness between the two countries, what better way to mislead from the true creator?

Lastly, I am aware of the Monero existence.
However, as said, I don't believe in given freedom. Monero in my view is a Chinese TOR, annually founded the US gov such as NSA. More here...

Get on board now.
The process is still relatively easy.
Create privacy-focused structures on as many exchanges as possible.
Forge financial freedom for your dynasty.

Granwasa.
Hello Grandwasa, you are always very interesting to read.

Could you sum a little on why you don't believe in Monero.

I have right now accounts in many exchange, some I open also after we spoke in another thread.

About the CRS, even if they don't apply right now, is highly probable that past transactions will be visible as soon as the apply it.
BTW there is also a very simple reason why no country need those information right now: most of the country make an audit of your taxpayers and reporting dues only from 3 to 7 years after the year of the transaction depending on different countries limitations regarding audit time limits.

"Create privacy-focused structures on as many exchanges as possible".
What do you mean exactly?

I am actually pretty much confident in crypto like monero or zcash also, those I think are going to be the safest way to keep money,

"Also with your own wallets, nothing changes. Every BTC address can be internationally flagged. Meaning that any major exchange will freeze your coins if deposited from such addresses".
Do you mean wallet on the exchange or private wallet accessible only with private keys (i think those ones cannot been frozen even if the creditor entity is a country)?
 

blueweb

Corporate Services
Mentor Group Gold
Elite Member
Crypto whether its BTC or other in the hands of government is tyranny. You basically through crypto enslave humanity economically in a single sweep if people are forced to adopt it by government.

For those hoping for a blockchain world I would say they are insane if they value freedom. No one knows who created BTC and for me that matters more than how it is used. If I was to guess then it would be some US government agency that put it out there.

P.S The younger TWT, IG, FB, BTC generation have no concept of privacy or freedom anymore. They will happily put on shackles without seeing the dangers.
I love to read your posts Martin, but I don't understand why you take up all the negative about the Crypto o_O
 

Martin Everson

Offshore Retiree
Mentor Group Gold
Elite Member
I love to read your posts Martin, but I don't understand why you take up all the negative about the Crypto o_O
My logic is always that the principle of distributed ledger technology (DLT) or crypto is good. But if controlled, supervised and regulated by any state it is very dangerous and will lead to total tyranny.

When you see a new technology extrapolate from it how it can be used for oppression, surveillance, subversion etc. Take FBI book or Facebook/Whatsapp as people like to call it. This is the biggest collection of personal information and peoples thoughts in the world given freely by people who have no idea. FB looks at your whatsapp msgs, sites you visit, who you know via downloading your entire phone book, what you are saying, examining your photos using facial recognition to determine all your acquaintances etc. They could literally take a picture of you at the airport and know everyone you know and everything you have said, sites you visited, places you gone, your political, religious affiliation and your views in general. Then they put out misleading information that they only hand over data with court requests etc. Well they would never tell you the truth or anything that might stop you from revealing personal information on their platform ;)

The same logic applies to DLT or crypto. I very much doubt whoever was behind it designed it for good.
 

Admin

Forum Moderator
Staff member
The same logic applies to DLT or crypto. I very much doubt whoever was behind it designed it for good.
second that part and the rest, we live in a dangerous world.
 

GiGoGo

I make things happen
Silver Member
My thoughts have been always focused on China, as the Bitcoin's creator.
They started planting seeds for global dominance decades ago. With the USA dying, the only player that could take its place and unify our nations is China.
Based on some research, he was probably Canadian or lived in North America. Used words like "bloody" and texted mostly on MST timezone.

The missing pillar? A global currency.
Bitcoin was invented to help casinos to do banking

Despite being still illegal in China, national BTC farms have always been on the edge of mining. Currently they control over 65% of the hash power. We all know how China works... Who really thinks, that the Gov would have allowed such proliferation, if considered a stability threat?
China allows you to make money with mining, so you can get fresh USD that they can collect via taxes. But fobids you to use Bitcoin for getting money outside the country
 

Granwasa

Active Member
Good morning gentlemen,
"Create privacy-focused structures on as many exchanges as possible".
What privacy-focused structures mean? It means opening accounts on exchanges, with "friends and family" documents and with companies that do not show your identity i.e. nominee structures or "friends and family" shareholders. The on-boarding process is still very easy, so act now.

I am actually pretty much confident in crypto like monero or zcash
As said, I do not believe in given freedom. In my view, this coins are like the Tor Project, annually founded by the US gov.

Do you mean wallet on the exchange or private wallet accessible only with private keys
All BTC address can be flagged. Coins deposited from such addresses on Exchanges, will be freezed.

Lastly @blueweb, I agree that crypto has a lot of bright sides. The right moves now, could create enormous financial liberty.
 
Mentor Group

Latest Threads

Mentor Group
Top