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I am offering healing services to my clients, all over the world.
Lately I run into some issues. My clients multiplied and it came a moment that I had to stop, because there was no way I could justify all those money I was making, to the authorities.
Additional issues that arose: I received payments from accounts that weren’t my clients’s’. After talking to them, they all reported that they wanted their health issue to remain private and chose to make the payment from another family member / friend / colleague account.
In addition, privacy became a major issue for most of my clients. I started having a lot of requests for offering a way to “paying anonymously”, or something into this vicinity.
For these reasons, last May, I decided to pull the plug off, until I find a way to offer my service again, in a way that I could meet my clients’s’ requirements.
Moreover, it became a serious security threat to me. I started receiving money from people I didn’t know. I had no means to verify, either the account holder, or the origin of the money. To take this one step further, maybe I was receiving money that came from not so ethical / “illegal” activities, for a real service I was providing. And if that was the case, even with one of those transactions, I would be the one facing the consequences of the law.
It was already becoming a problem, the volume of money that I was making. However, if authorities found out, I would be able to justify it all, by showing them the transactions and the corresponding services. I am sure they would had me pay taxes on that money, as well as fines. But it would have stopped there. I wouldn’t have a problem with that, as much as it would hurt, “loosing” a big portion of the money I worked hard for and simply hand it in to the government.
It is a completely different thing, to be accused of receiving “questionable” funds, or receiving funds from people who are known to them for illegal activities . . . I have a problem with that. So as I told you, last May I decided to pull the plug off, until I figure this out.

I am offering healing services to my clients, all over the world.

Lately I run into some issues. My clients multiplied and it came a moment that I had to stop, because there was no way I could justify all those money I was making, to the authorities.


Additional issues that arose: I received payments from accounts that weren’t my clients’s’. After talking to them, they all reported that they wanted their health issue to remain private and chose to make the payment from another family member / friend / colleague account.


In addition, privacy became a major issue for most of my clients. I started having a lot of requests for offering a way to “paying anonymously”, or something into this vicinity.

For these reasons, last May, I decided to pull the plug off, until I find a way to offer my service again, in a way that I could meet my clients’s’ requirements.


Moreover, it became a serious security threat to me. I started receiving money from people I didn’t know. I had no means to verify, either the account holder, or the origin of the money. To take this one step further, maybe I was receiving money that came from not so ethical / “illegal” activities, for a real service I was providing. And if that was the case, even with one of those transactions, I would be the one facing the consequences of the law.


It was already becoming a problem, the volume of money that I was making. However, if authorities found out, I would be able to justify it all, by showing them the transactions and the corresponding services. I am sure they would had me pay taxes on that money, as well as fines. But it would have stopped there. I wouldn’t have a problem with that, as much as it would hurt, “loosing” a big portion of the money I worked hard for and simply hand it in to the government.


It is a completely different thing, to be accused of receiving “questionable” funds, or receiving funds from people who are known to them for illegal activities . . . I have a problem with that. So as I told you, last May I decided to pull the plug off, until I figure this out.


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1 CLARIFICCATIONS


Since I don’t know the origin / legitimacy of the money coming from:

1.1 I want to be able to use the funds, without having to think about what ifs

1.2 I don’t want to run into any trouble with the authorities for real services I am offering. However, I don’t know, how the money I am paid, is acquired from the owners.

1.3 Be able to legally own my funds.

1.4 Pay as low tax as possible.

1.5 Having access to funds 24/7/365 worldwide

1.6 Being able to somehow transfer my funds to a more secure option

1.7 I am an EU citizen

1.8 MONTHLY SALES VOLUME:

1.8.1 1ST Q – Monthly: 100k – 300k.

1.8.2 2nd Q – Monthly: 300k – 800K.

1.8.3 3rd Q – Monthly: 800K – 3M.

1.8.4 4TH Q – Monthly: 3M –


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2 PAYMENT METHODS


A structure where:

2.1 I can receive payments from all over the world

2.2 Payment methods:

2.2.1 EMI

2.2.1.1 PAYPAL

2.2.1.2 PAYONEER

2.2.1.3 Other EMI

2.2.2 CREDIT CARD (Not that often.)

2.2.3 Bank Transfers / swift

2.2.4 Western Union / Money Gram

2.2.5 Not sure about CRYPTO (Not at the moment, but maybe I get a request for that as well)

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3 BSNS STRUCTURE IDEAS


3.0 Would you Suggest an LLC or IBC?


I am throwing some ideas which might, or might not be sound.


3.1 GAMBLING BSNS -SITE:

3.1.1 I get paid by clients loosing.

3.1.2 I will be notified in advance for the deposit by a client and make sure he loses.

3.1.3 I don’t need a real license. Just a “legit” site to get the money.

3.1.4 One of the ideal jurisdictions recommended, is Curacao. Are there any more?

3.1.5 Since the only ones “playing”, will be my clients, I might not even need a licence for that.

3.1.6 However, where do I host it and how do I open a bank account

3.2 SERVICES BSNS – SITE:

3.2.1 What kind a services can justify 300k, 1M invoices?

3.2.2 I might be wrong, but this is gonna raise flags from the get go.

3.3 FUNDRAISING:

3.3.1 Same thing. It is gonna raise flags

3.3.2 Money will be purring in

3.4 ADULT:

3.4.1 I don’t want to get involved with this industry. call it old fashion, or whatever, I believe in the long run, I will run into more problems.

3.5 INVESTMENT GROUP:

3.5.1 Invest what?

3.5.2 I don’t know how this works

3.6 TRUST:

3.6.1 Money will be pouring in from different accounts from all over the world.

3.6.2 Is this gonna raise any flags?

3.6.3 How do I set it up?

3.7 PRIVATE FOUNDATION:

3.7.1 This might be good, however how do I accept “donations” from my clients?

3.7.2 How do I use the money, since it is for charity?



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4 COSTS


4.1 What is the setup cost for the company / companies you are proposing:

4.2 Monthly cost:

4.3 Annual cost:

4.4 Hidden charges:

4.5 Total annual cost:

4.6 2nd year costs:

4.7 Additional years’ costs:


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5 JUJRISDICTIONS: PRIVACY / ANONYMITY / SECURITY


Since there is no such thing as anonymity anymore and since most ex Tax Havens have signed the deal for transparency, I am looking for a setup, to have the most security that I can get. I am throwing some ideas that may, or may not be sound:


5.1 1st scenario:

5.1.1 1st bsns Entity will issue Bare Bonds.

5.1.2 The 1st Bsns Entity will be owed by a Trust Fund

5.2 2nd scenario:

5.2.1 1st bsns Entity will issue Bare Bonds.

5.2.2 1st Bsns Entity will be managed by a 2nd

5.2.3 2nd bsns entity will be owed by a Trust Fund

5.3 It is most important that the link is broken and the authorities will never get to the real owner

5.4 Which is a jurisdiction with a good banking system and would you suggest a bank that is sound / reputable with good standing?

5.4.1 Malta/ Giblartar. I have read of big changes coming in the next few months and I don’t know if these 2 are good ones for my situation

5.4.2 Georgia: The banking system is not strong and I have doubts about the banks there

5.4.3 Cyprus: Even though the taxation is only 12% and the banking system and economy is great, there is a lot of pressure from the EU regarding transparency. Moreover, all the firms that provide setups, have “used” their lawyers as nominnes to 1000’s of offshore companies. So, in a way authorities know who you are.

5.4.4 BVI: Almost everyone lately tries to avoid BVI like the plague.

5.4.5 SEYCHELLES / BELIZE: Most suggest these 2 jurisdictions for offshore bsns.

5.4.6 PANAMA / MARSHALL ISLES: BURNT

5.4.7 NEVIS: I read the best about Nevis, even though it is very expensive.

5.4.8 ISLE OF MAN: Any thoughts?



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6 “OWNING THE FUNDS”


The setup must be in such a way that I will be the legal owner of the funds


6.1 When forming the Bsns / bnsnes / Trust, please let me know how the lawyers can screw me.

6.2 What kind of docs I need to have the trustees sign, in order to be the legal owner and not get screwed.


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7 ACCESSING THE FUNDS


I would like to have access to the funds online 24/7/365 worldwide


7.1 Most banks give you a debit card associated with the bank account, so I guess this is solved.

7.1.1 I know that I should never use the receipts from purchases made, nor buy something into my legal name using that Debit Card.

7.1.2 Can I use this card, to order things online to be delivered to my real address?

7.1.3 From the bank account, that is located let’s say at Seychelles or Belize, how do I transfer funds to EU?

7.1.3.1 It is my understanding that EU banks don’t open accounts for offshore companies.

7.1.3.2 And even if they did, how would I justify to the EU authorities that I open an account for an offshore company? Would that be like shooting myself on the foot?

7.1.4 Can I “hire” myself as a representative of that company in EU and send funds to my bank account in EU, as expenses, or salary?

7.1.4.1 Would that be dangerous?

7.1.4.2 Would it raise any flags?

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8 BRINGING THE MONEY BACK HOME


Having talked to my accountant, he informed that I can cut all ties with EU and move my tax base to another country. Stay there for 3 to 5 years and then come back. All the money I would have made to the new country, I can bring them back with me, tax free.


8.1 Is this accurate?

8.2 Won’t be any flags /questions on the sources of the money made?

8.3 Unfortunately, for the next few years, I wont be able to do such a move. I was thinking on setting up the whole thing and when the time comes, I go there and “transfer” the company to my real name. And then bring all the funds back clean.



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9 TRUST FUNDS: TRANSFERING YOUR WEALTH AND BE PAID


Since a Trust fund is the closest that we have to anonymity, could you please let me know:

9.1 How do I transfer my personal wealth to a Trust fund?

9.2 How will I transfer the funds from the BSNS, where the money will be coming in, to the Trust fund?

9.3 (THIS IS SEPARATE)If I were to own money and property in EU, how can this be transferred to a Trust fund, without the authorities finding out?

9.3.1 Is it advisable to do it?

9.4 After all the funds from the Bsns Entity that I setup (or even my personal wealth) has been transferred to a Trust fund, how do I get paid?

9.5 I mean you state it on the docs, that you are to be paid x money, or % per month by the TF, but how do you get paid?

9.6 How will these money be available to you?

9.6.1 Will there be deposited to a bank account?

9.6.2 In EU?

9.6.3 Under your real name?

9.6.4 How are you gonna justify that to the authorities?

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First of all, I would like to thank you for taking the time to read all this. I tried to make it as simple as I could and lay out all the questions that I have.

Once again thank you all, for any input you give.

I appreciate it.
 
What is thishi%# do you really expect anyone to read all this and it is posted twice for some part of the text??
 
As admin says, I didn't read it all. But from what I understand, you are pulling in 3million a month and don't want to use bitcoin.

Why are you asking on a forum for help here? With that kind of money go speak to the professionals at the bank. Or a financial advisor who specialises in this. They will be fighting over themselves for your business.

But something doesn't seem to add up here. 3million a month from "healing" services...
 
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Thank you all guys for your replies.

I understand now that i have formed the whole thread in a wrong way.

I was only trying to lay it out so i wouldnt have to keep asking.

That was wrong on my bahalf.

I apologize to all
 
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Thank you all guys for your replies.

I understand now that i have formed the whole thread in a wrong way.

I was only trying to lay it out so i wouldnt have to keep asking.

That was wrong on my bahalf.

I apologize to all

After all, it's basically fine that you made such a long post, the problem is probably just that people get tired of reading it all through and therefore you get too little answer out of it. But, I would like to hear if you got something out of your thread and whether you solved your real problem or whether you are still on the hunt for the right solution?
 
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