Real estate acquisitions with Bitcoin

[u21e]

The acquisition of international real estate for Bitcoin as means of payment is in a developing stage. Regulatory or practical hurdles are to manage the deal similar to an over-the-counter Bitcoin exchange, to meet the red-tape requirements of the local land office, the scope and level of required KYC/AML/CDD, and some other aspects. There are seemingly lots of offers for BTC2PROP on e-marketplaces and broker websites.

However, looking deeper into such marketing offers reveals that they are either consciously misleading or that they do not understand their own business. In fact, they just offer the additional service to convert crypto into fiat by using an ordinary crypto exchange provider. This leaves the property buyer with all the hassle that his Bitcoin or other crypto has to meet the compliance tests of the exchange, which is not acceptable for everyone.

Are you aware of any property offering on the market that accepts cryptopayments without the need for a prior exchange into fiat?

 

[equityone]

That’s usually the case if you approach the markets as an ordinary Joe, same as for other services within the financial industry, just following the general information, ads that lead to nothing.

Wonder what HNI & UHNI have in common?

They build relationships, find loopholes, take shortcuts and get exclusive access, obviously by paying for such, which most of the time ordinary people that have amassed some holdings in crypto over the years fail to comprehend.

Everyone chases the next EMI, the next crypto friendly bank, the next crypto real estate broker, answers from random people on forums and google ads themselves, not forgetting the golden duo of suggestions: 1 Dubai company formation 2 Cyprus… ‍

And the cycle never ends.

 

[troubled soul]

Without proper kyc/aml property purchase with bitcoin is risky as hell.

Did you try dubai???


Can you share country where you want to buy property???
And where are you from?

So people can help .

There are already thread with similar topics.

You can search on forum.

 

[CyprusLaw]

The acquisition of international real estate for Bitcoin as means of payment is in a developing stage. Regulatory or practical hurdles are to manage the deal similar to an over-the-counter Bitcoin exchange, to meet the red-tape requirements of the local land office, the scope and level of required KYC/AML/CDD, and some other aspects. There are seemingly lots of offers for BTC2PROP on e-marketplaces and broker websites.

However, looking deeper into such marketing offers reveals that they are either consciously misleading or that they do not understand their own business. In fact, they just offer the additional service to convert crypto into fiat by using an ordinary crypto exchange provider. This leaves the property buyer with all the hassle that his Bitcoin or other crypto has to meet the compliance tests of the exchange, which is not acceptable for everyone.

Are you aware of any property offering on the market that accepts cryptopayments without the need for a prior exchange into fiat?

There are a few options in Cyprus for this, we have done similar deals before.
What type of property are you looking for?

 

[equityone]

And without failing, just as I mentioned here they come the “golden” suggestions of Dubai & Cyprus. lol

 

[CyprusLaw]

And without failing, just as I mentioned here they come the “golden” suggestions of Dubai & Cyprus. lol

I would love to hear why you are so hostile towards Cyprus

 

[erni]

I would love to hear why you are so hostile towards Cyprus

Have nothing bad to say about Cyprus and the many opportunities for our business it had.

 

[369]

Cyprus is within the EU so a no go if you don't want to be harrased in the future

 

[MiddleEuroAsia]

Wonder what HNI & UHNI have in common?

They build relationships, find loopholes, take shortcuts and get exclusive access, obviously by paying for such, which most of the time ordinary people that have amassed some holdings in crypto over the years fail to comprehend.

Yeah, and the sky is blue and the trees are green

And without failing, just as I mentioned here they come the “golden” suggestions of Dubai & Cyprus. lol

ok, share your "golden ideas" with us, otherwise, what's the point of commenting on a this thread if you won't add anything useful to it

 

[equityone]

That’s usually the case if you approach the markets as an ordinary Joe, same as for other services within the financial industry, just following the general information, ads that lead to nothing.

Wonder what HNI & UHNI have in common?

They build relationships, find loopholes, take shortcuts and get exclusive access, obviously by paying for such, which most of the time ordinary people that have amassed some holdings in crypto over the years fail to comprehend.

Everyone chases the next EMI, the next crypto friendly bank, the next crypto real estate broker, answers from random people on forums and google ads themselves, not forgetting the golden duo of suggestions: 1 Dubai company formation 2 Cyprus… ‍

And the cycle never ends.

I would love to hear why you are so hostile towards Cyprus

I have several business associates from Cyprus so my words bare no hostility at all, just stating the obvious that Cyprus has had it’s run and is an outdated exit for the current market, specially when involving crypto or real estate…

but I guess that doesn’t fit the narrative when people offer ancillary services to begin with, in Cyprus…

 

[equityone]

Yeah, and the sky is blue and the trees are green

ok, share your "golden ideas" with us, otherwise, what's the point of commenting on a this thread if you won't add anything useful to it

the sky is blue and the trees are green

Yeah, and the sky is blue and the trees are green

ok, share your "golden ideas" with us, otherwise, what's the point of commenting on a this thread if you won't add anything useful to it

I am not obliged to share anything, considering this forum has also a paid membership, I would think that anyone with real interest would search for answers there.

Secondly for the past year I have been approached by several forum members here on third party channels, all inquiring for somewhat the same service or solution to whom I have shared information & details how things work in the real world and none were at capacity to be rendered such services to begin with…

So why bother?

My idea is that the generalization with almost BOT like responses for any question in this forum regarding crypto or real estate with the “golden duo” as I mentioned to be Cyprus & Dubai is not helpful, on a second note there are many other alternatives and structures where people can accomplish the same outcome, at a far more simplified way without having to change residencies, setup companies elsewhere and etc, the world is far bigger than just that… but no Joe would find such solutions in public forums, specially if they lack the connections and having considerable assets

 

[carz]

I am not obliged to share anything, considering this forum has also a paid membership, I would think that anyone with real interest would search for answers there.

Secondly for the past year I have been approached by several forum members here on third party channels, all inquiring for somewhat the same service or solution to whom I have shared information & details how things work in the real world and none were at capacity to be rendered such services to begin with…

So why bother?

My idea is that the generalization with almost BOT like responses for any question in this forum regarding crypto or real estate with the “golden duo” as I mentioned to be Cyprus & Dubai is not helpful, on a second note there are many other alternatives and structures where people can accomplish the same outcome, at a far more simplified way without having to change residencies, setup companies elsewhere and etc, the world is far bigger than just that… but no Joe would find such solutions in public forums, specially if they lack the connections and having considerable assets

Crypto has resulted in a lot of rich normal/tech people who have limited knowledge of business/finance.

What do you mean by "none were at capacity to be rendered such services to begin with…", that they don't have enough wealth to merit such complex structures? or that they lack the knowledge? If the former fair enough, if the latter I disagree.

Why not provide some useful information here though? Do you have an alternative solution to Dubai for EU nationals?

While it may be common sense to speak to a professional (duh!), why not help people out and give some guidance? Again, people with limited knowledge on wealth management have been turned into multi-millionaires overnight.

 

[equityone]

To answer your question, none of the structures were or are complex to begin with.

And no, it wasn’t either a matter of their “wealth” value , although as I initially mentioned on my first comment, hni&uhni clients play by different game rules since they know what they’re doing or if they don’t they have no issues paying professionals to do the job, and neither that they lacked the knowledge, I went full board and beyond with each one of them providing even the slightest detail, kyb/kyc, proof of previous rendered cases, multiple alternatives within the same exit structure and everything without any “upfront” or consulting fees…

So in fairness I would have no problem doing it again, but as cliche it might sound, time costs money and I’m done with giving insights & connections for free, other than a general opinion or advice , same as I did here and immediately was hassled for pointing out the obvious, at least based to my opinion and know how…

As you mention indeed, nowadays there are many people that have somehow amassed crypto assets over the years, some to considerable amounts, to the extent that the markets are saturated, with clueless holders, brokers, domiciling& company formation agents, scammers , etc.

There are all sorts of scenarios, specially for EU nationals, but each case is individual, there’s no one shoe fits all solution out there…

Comes down to the desired outcome, the volume of the assets, the timeframe, cooperativeness, location, discreetness and being serious in the first place.

 

[MiddleEuroAsia]

So in fairness I would have no problem doing it again, but as cliche it might sound, time costs money and I’m done with giving insights & connections for free, other than a general opinion or advice , same as I did here and immediately was hassled for pointing out the obvious, at least based to my opinion and know how…

Man, that's a tiring way to say that you are selling a service lol. anyway, good luck to you and your future business endeavors

 

[equityone]

Man, that's a tiring way to say that you are selling a service lol. anyway, good luck to you and your future business endeavors

Thanks for the consideration, but I’m not selling any services, if that’s all you emphasized from my reply to another member’s comments , best of luck to you as well.

Having the means, know how and connections to accomplish things and giving feedback on X topic doesn’t necessarily mean I’m on the market, specially here to anonymous, random people online

 

[carz]

I get where you're coming from, but I also understand why people always suggest looking into Dubai and I don't see anything wrong with this advice.

OP is asking if he can buy property with crypto directly. Even though (to my knowledge) this isn't possible in Dubai, professional help (using their connections, network and knowledge) may be able to assist with this purchase without a lot of red tape, or at least with much less red tape then the OP has come across.

As you say, there are all sorts of scenarios. Why not ask the OP to give some more details/highlight his scenario and then give some more specific advice? Even just some guidance so he can do some further research before contacting a professional would be awesome.

 

[equityone]

I get where you're coming from, but I also understand why people always suggest looking into Dubai and I don't see anything wrong with this advice.

OP is asking if he can buy property with crypto directly. Even though (to my knowledge) this isn't possible in Dubai, professional help (using their connections, network and knowledge) may be able to assist with this purchase without a lot of red tape, or at least with much less red tape then the OP has come across.

As you say, there are all sorts of scenarios. Why not ask the OP to give some more details/highlight his scenario and then give some more specific advice? Even just some guidance so he can do some further research before contacting a professional would be awesome.

The OP is free to disclose information at his own liberty, the idea is anything can be achieved be it through traditional or untraditional channels,
as long as the person on the other side is willing to pay, it’s not science.

 

[uplana]

ok, share your "golden ideas" with us, otherwise, what's the point of commenting on a this thread if you won't add anything useful to it

I totally agree, share what you have on your mind. It makes zero to no sense to post your crap here.

I get where you're coming from, but I also understand why people always suggest looking into Dubai and I don't see anything wrong with this advice.

very true, if you have the chance to get out of the EU do it right now. Relocate to Cyprus or Dubai if that is what you are able to do.

 

[Verbatim]

That’s usually the case if you approach the markets as an ordinary Joe, same as for other services within the financial industry, just following the general information, ads that lead to nothing.

Wonder what HNI & UHNI have in common?

They build relationships, find loopholes, take shortcuts and get exclusive access, obviously by paying for such, which most of the time ordinary people that have amassed some holdings in crypto over the years fail to comprehend.

Everyone chases the next EMI, the next crypto friendly bank, the next crypto real estate broker, answers from random people on forums and google ads themselves, not forgetting the golden duo of suggestions: 1 Dubai company formation 2 Cyprus… ‍

And the cycle never ends.

curious to ask why you don't like Dubai?

 

[equityone]

I totally agree, share what you have on your mind. It makes zero to no sense to post your crap here.

very true, if you have the chance to get out of the EU do it right now. Relocate to Cyprus or Dubai if that is what you are able to do.

I totally agree, share what you have on your mind. It makes zero to no sense to post your crap here.

very true, if you have the chance to get out of the EU do it right now. Relocate to Cyprus or Dubai if that is what you are able to do.

If my insights were to be crap for real none would bother to ask me to share anything further so who’s posting crap.

I have zero incentive or obligation to share any information, use google